Monday 31 March 2008
Is Clydach the same as Aberclydach? - it seems so...
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(quote, excerpts)
Clydach Vale. Its old name was Cwm Pwca (Puck's valley);
local legend has it that Shakespeare knew a family in
Aberclydach,
and wrote 'A Midsummer Night's Dream' here.
An extract from from"Around Alton Photographic Memories".
http://mylocalgifts.com/search/wales/gwent/clydach/
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There is an old communion table dated 1624, while the altar was
reputed to have been taken from the cellar of Aberclydach House and is
the older.
http://www.cwmtillery.com/museum/newsletter_february07.htm
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The village of Clydach itself developed in the Lower Rhyndwyclydach
> section
> around the area of Aberclydach farm and was originally called
> Aberclydach.
http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/GLAMORGAN/2006-05/1148804023
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Under this window is an old communion table dated 1624. The present
alter is reputed to have been taken out of the cellar of the
Aberclydach House. It is the older of the two, and a magnificent
specimen of Elizabethan work.
History & Description of
Llanelly Parish Church,
Breconshire, Wales
http://thomasgenweb.com/llanelly_church.html
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Thursday 27 March 2008
The Whitneys of Whitney - 3
3.
Turstin, or Thurstan, the Fleming
Also known as Turstin de Wigmore, maybe also as Turstin, son of Rolf, and Turstin "the White".
A follower of William the Conqueror. In the Domesday book, an extensive land-holder in Herefordshire and the Marches of Wales.
Married Agnes, daughter of Alured de Merleberge (Alfred of Marlborough), a Norman baron of Ewias/Ewyas Castle, in the Marches of Wales.
Children:
Eustace, son of Turstin
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Whitneys of Whitney
Origin
The Whitney family originated with a man named Turstin who came to England with William the Conqueror in 1066 and who probably fought in the Battle of Hastings. He was called 'Turstin Flandrensis' (Turstin of Flanders, Turstin the Fleming) probably because he came from the area known as Flanders.
At some point he was given land near Wigmore Castle and was thereafter known as 'Turstin de Wigemore'. Turstin and his wife Agnes had a son Eustace, and Eustace inherited the manor of Pencombe from his mother. Note that the nearby region called Whitney was still at this time ungranted wild land.
Sometime in the several unknown generations between Eustace of Pencombe and his descendant Robert de Whitney, probably about 1190, a man was granted the region called Whitney and a castle was built. The family then became known as 'de Whitney' (of Whitney), and the Whitney surname was born.[1]
* Turstin (s1045-a1086) "the Fleming", "de Wigemore", of Wigmore and Pencombe, m. Agnes, daughter of Alfred of Marlborough (s1020-?)
* Eustace (s1075-a1100) of Pencombe
* four to six generations, names have not survived.[2] Due to the fact that later Whitney coats of arms contain a cross, it is thought probable that members in these generations may have participated in the 1st Crusade (1095-99), the 2nd Crusade (1145-48), or the 3rd Crusade (1189-1192).
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"There is a pedigree of the early Lords of Whitney, tracing their descent for five or six generations through a line of Welshmen with unpronounceable names, one of whom, Sir Piedge Exrog, was a 'Knight of ye Round Table.
To King Arthyrs time he lived att his Castle at Coedmore in Cardiganshire.'
This is to be found in a manuscript book of pedigrees called
The Golden Grove,
belonging to the Earl of Cawdor and now (1875) in the custody of the Public Record office, Chancery Lane. It was compiled, about 1703, by Owen Thomas, Deputy Assistant to Garter King-at-Arms, from papers and correspondence furnished by living representatives. This pedigree is obviously mythical for many generations." Henry Austin Whitney
http://wiki.whitneygen.org/wrg/index.php/
Whitneys_of_Whitney
Turstin, or Thurstan, the Fleming
Also known as Turstin de Wigmore, maybe also as Turstin, son of Rolf, and Turstin "the White".
A follower of William the Conqueror. In the Domesday book, an extensive land-holder in Herefordshire and the Marches of Wales.
Married Agnes, daughter of Alured de Merleberge (Alfred of Marlborough), a Norman baron of Ewias/Ewyas Castle, in the Marches of Wales.
Children:
Eustace, son of Turstin
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Whitneys of Whitney
Origin
The Whitney family originated with a man named Turstin who came to England with William the Conqueror in 1066 and who probably fought in the Battle of Hastings. He was called 'Turstin Flandrensis' (Turstin of Flanders, Turstin the Fleming) probably because he came from the area known as Flanders.
At some point he was given land near Wigmore Castle and was thereafter known as 'Turstin de Wigemore'. Turstin and his wife Agnes had a son Eustace, and Eustace inherited the manor of Pencombe from his mother. Note that the nearby region called Whitney was still at this time ungranted wild land.
Sometime in the several unknown generations between Eustace of Pencombe and his descendant Robert de Whitney, probably about 1190, a man was granted the region called Whitney and a castle was built. The family then became known as 'de Whitney' (of Whitney), and the Whitney surname was born.[1]
* Turstin (s1045-a1086) "the Fleming", "de Wigemore", of Wigmore and Pencombe, m. Agnes, daughter of Alfred of Marlborough (s1020-?)
* Eustace (s1075-a1100) of Pencombe
* four to six generations, names have not survived.[2] Due to the fact that later Whitney coats of arms contain a cross, it is thought probable that members in these generations may have participated in the 1st Crusade (1095-99), the 2nd Crusade (1145-48), or the 3rd Crusade (1189-1192).
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"There is a pedigree of the early Lords of Whitney, tracing their descent for five or six generations through a line of Welshmen with unpronounceable names, one of whom, Sir Piedge Exrog, was a 'Knight of ye Round Table.
To King Arthyrs time he lived att his Castle at Coedmore in Cardiganshire.'
This is to be found in a manuscript book of pedigrees called
The Golden Grove,
belonging to the Earl of Cawdor and now (1875) in the custody of the Public Record office, Chancery Lane. It was compiled, about 1703, by Owen Thomas, Deputy Assistant to Garter King-at-Arms, from papers and correspondence furnished by living representatives. This pedigree is obviously mythical for many generations." Henry Austin Whitney
http://wiki.whitneygen.org/wrg/index.php/
Whitneys_of_Whitney
The Whitneys of Whitney - 2
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Whitney Castle, Whitney on Wye.
SMR NO. 1192 GRID REF: SO 2725 4654
Whitney on Wye is on the North bank of the River Wye close to the Radnorshire border. The site is just to the south of Old Whitney Court and on the west side of the River Wye.
Description of the site today.
There is no trace of a castle at this site now but tradition says that beneath the river which dramatically changed its course in 1730, are still to e seen masses of masonry which may have belonged to the castle.
In 1675 although there was no trace of a castle tower some residents are said to have recollection of a building at this site. (Blount MS)
It was apparently a motte and bailey castle, formerly on a spit of gravel on a bend in the River Wye.
In 1976 Several lumps of mortared masonry and lots of stone with mortar attached were seen in the river, up to ¾ of a mile from the site.
History
Although it is not possible to trace the history of the castle we can trace some of the history of the family who took their name from this place. The Whitney family can trace their descent from Turstin the Fleming who held both Pencomb and Whitney.
1283: Eustachius de Whitney had a grant of free warren in Whitney and in 1306 was knighted under King Edward I. The family is also said to have taken part in The Crusades (the Holy Wars fought over Jerusalem -they began in 1096 and continued well into the 13th century).
1377: Robert Whitney was Sheriff of Herefordhsire and was also Knight of the Shire, as were several of his relatives.
1640's: At the time of the English Civil War Sir Robert Whitney was head of the family, and a devoted Royalist who gave much of his estate to support the King. By his death in 1653 the lands in Pencombe had been sold and his on;y son had produced no male heir and so the name became extinct and the property was divided between the daughters.
It later passed to the Rodd's of Foxley and then to William Wardour M.P. and Colonel Tomkyns Wardour who were related to the families of Monnington and Garnstone.
On Taylor's map of 1754 it is marked as 'castle demolished'
http://www.smr.herefordshire.gov.uk/castles/
castlesdata_az/whitney.htm
Whitney Castle, Whitney on Wye.
SMR NO. 1192 GRID REF: SO 2725 4654
Whitney on Wye is on the North bank of the River Wye close to the Radnorshire border. The site is just to the south of Old Whitney Court and on the west side of the River Wye.
Description of the site today.
There is no trace of a castle at this site now but tradition says that beneath the river which dramatically changed its course in 1730, are still to e seen masses of masonry which may have belonged to the castle.
In 1675 although there was no trace of a castle tower some residents are said to have recollection of a building at this site. (Blount MS)
It was apparently a motte and bailey castle, formerly on a spit of gravel on a bend in the River Wye.
In 1976 Several lumps of mortared masonry and lots of stone with mortar attached were seen in the river, up to ¾ of a mile from the site.
History
Although it is not possible to trace the history of the castle we can trace some of the history of the family who took their name from this place. The Whitney family can trace their descent from Turstin the Fleming who held both Pencomb and Whitney.
1283: Eustachius de Whitney had a grant of free warren in Whitney and in 1306 was knighted under King Edward I. The family is also said to have taken part in The Crusades (the Holy Wars fought over Jerusalem -they began in 1096 and continued well into the 13th century).
1377: Robert Whitney was Sheriff of Herefordhsire and was also Knight of the Shire, as were several of his relatives.
1640's: At the time of the English Civil War Sir Robert Whitney was head of the family, and a devoted Royalist who gave much of his estate to support the King. By his death in 1653 the lands in Pencombe had been sold and his on;y son had produced no male heir and so the name became extinct and the property was divided between the daughters.
It later passed to the Rodd's of Foxley and then to William Wardour M.P. and Colonel Tomkyns Wardour who were related to the families of Monnington and Garnstone.
On Taylor's map of 1754 it is marked as 'castle demolished'
http://www.smr.herefordshire.gov.uk/castles/
castlesdata_az/whitney.htm
The Whitneys of Whitney
1.
The term "March" is derived from the Anglo-Saxon "mearc," which means "boundary." However, the Marches are much more than a mere boundary between two lands. Although a few Normans had settled in the region prior to the conquest, building castles at such places as Ewyas Harold, Richard's Castle and Hereford, it was only after 1066 that William the Conqueror sought to formally subdue the borderlands.
The Welsh in particular did not gracefully submit to Norman control and resisted for well over 100 years. In order to quell the Welsh uprisings, King William created the Marcher Lordships, granting virtual independence and what amounted to petty kingdoms to over 150 of his most valued supporters.
The territories were collectively known as the Welsh Marches (Marchia Wallia), while the native Welsh lands to the west were considered Wales Proper (pura Wallia).
Marcher lords ruled their lands as they saw fit, unlike their counterparts in England who were directly accountable to the king. Marcher lords could build castles, administer laws, wage wars, establish towns, and "possessed all of the royal perquisites - salvage, treasure-trove, plunder and royal fish (Rowley)". People living in the Marches were subject to "the customs of the March," while those in pura Wallia still adhered to "the laws of Hywel Dda" (indigenous Welsh law).
http://www.castlewales.com/march.html
Sunday 16 March 2008
Latest discoveries ... 6
Golden Grove, Wales
pictures at
http://images.google.co.uk/images?as_q=wales&gbv=1
&hl=en&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=golden+grove
&as_oq=&as_eq=ship+sydney&imgtype=&imgsz=
&as_filetype=&imgc=&as_sitesearch=&safe=
images&as_st=y
pictures at
http://images.google.co.uk/images?as_q=wales&gbv=1
&hl=en&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=golden+grove
&as_oq=&as_eq=ship+sydney&imgtype=&imgsz=
&as_filetype=&imgc=&as_sitesearch=&safe=
images&as_st=y
Latest discoveries ... 5
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Tretower
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We found 242 results for photos matching Tretower.
http://www.flickr.com/search/?page=10&q=tretower&z=t
Google Image Search for Tretower
http://images.google.co.uk/images?hl=en&q=Tretower
&btnG=Search+Images&gbv=1
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Tretower Court
Tretower Castle was first established by a Norman knight of the Picard family who assisted Bernard de Neufmarche in his conquest of Brycheiniog. The manor continued to be held by the Picard family for many generations, during which time the original timber castle was upgraded. It then passed through several hands, being damaged by Owain Glyndwr whilst garrisoned against him by Sir James Berkeley. By this time the main dwelling was at the Court built nearby, and the castle fell into disrepair.
The Vaughan family held the Court from the late fifteenth century and developed it as a fortified manor house. By the time the Vaughans sold it to the Parry family in 1783 the great days of the ancient mansion were behind it and it had evolved into a substantial farm.
http://history.powys.org.uk/history/crick/tretwr.html
Tretower Court
Tretower Court - The courtyard seen from the Gatehouse Standing against the splendid backdrop of the Black Mountains, this remarkable medieval country house is one of the rare and glorious survivals that Wales has to offer. When Roger Picard arrived in the valley at the end of the 11th century with the Norman invaders, he built a simple motte and bailey castle at Tretower, which the next six generations of the family enlarged and strengthened. By the early 14th century more comfortable domestic accommodation was required, so the building of Tretower Court began and was continued over the next 350 years. With an architectural history almost as complex as the family succession, this charming fortified manor house offers the visitor an evocative glimpse of the lifestyle enjoyed by the more affluent members of society during the Middle Ages.
Among the early owners of Tretower Court are listed Lord Berkeley and the Earl of Pembroke, but probably the most noted link with the house is that of Henry Vaughan, the 'Silurist'. Henry was a nephew to the owner of Tretower and never actually lived at the house, but history records that he had an intimate association with the property, inspired by the tranquillity of its surrounding environment. As a great poet and distinguished writer, whose works are highly acclaimed among the literature of 17th century England, Henry's love of the gentle Usk valley and the hauntingly beautiful Black Mountains was captured for eternity by his words.
Up until 1783 Tretower Court was owned by descendants of Picard, although the family name changed several times as a result of the circumstances of inheritance.
By the middle of the 15th century the family name of Vaughan was firmly established, and it was Sir Roger Vaughan, an extremely wealthy commoner, who really made his mark on the new building, doubling the size and embellishing it with quality dressed stonework and ornate woodwork.
Additions and alterations were subsequently made, especially after it passed out of the family in the late 18th century to become a farm, but the core of the house remains essentially 14th/15th century in origin. Developed to form an irregular four-sided, two-storey building with a central courtyard, the house looks intriguingly different from every angle. There is a first floor timber gallery running the length of one range, there are battlemented wall walks along a further two ranges, and there is a most amazing combination of various window styles and doorways throughout the entire building.
Even though Tretower Court is devoid of furniture, this in no way detracts from the wonderful atmosphere of the individual rooms and, if anything, serves only to enhance the medieval beauty of the building. With no priceless works of art to admire, the eyes are able to focus on some of the surviving details of skilled craftsmanship, and appreciate how much intensive labour this work must have taken with their simple set of medieval tools. In comparison to the cold comforts afforded by the old stone castle, the relative luxury of this once grand and imposing 'modern' house must have seemed strangely disconcerting at first for the Vaughan family.
http://www.theheritagetrail.co.uk/manor%20houses/tretower%20court.htm
Tretower
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We found 242 results for photos matching Tretower.
http://www.flickr.com/search/?page=10&q=tretower&z=t
Google Image Search for Tretower
http://images.google.co.uk/images?hl=en&q=Tretower
&btnG=Search+Images&gbv=1
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(quote, excerpts)
Tretower Court
Tretower Castle was first established by a Norman knight of the Picard family who assisted Bernard de Neufmarche in his conquest of Brycheiniog. The manor continued to be held by the Picard family for many generations, during which time the original timber castle was upgraded. It then passed through several hands, being damaged by Owain Glyndwr whilst garrisoned against him by Sir James Berkeley. By this time the main dwelling was at the Court built nearby, and the castle fell into disrepair.
The Vaughan family held the Court from the late fifteenth century and developed it as a fortified manor house. By the time the Vaughans sold it to the Parry family in 1783 the great days of the ancient mansion were behind it and it had evolved into a substantial farm.
http://history.powys.org.uk/history/crick/tretwr.html
Tretower Court
Tretower Court - The courtyard seen from the Gatehouse Standing against the splendid backdrop of the Black Mountains, this remarkable medieval country house is one of the rare and glorious survivals that Wales has to offer. When Roger Picard arrived in the valley at the end of the 11th century with the Norman invaders, he built a simple motte and bailey castle at Tretower, which the next six generations of the family enlarged and strengthened. By the early 14th century more comfortable domestic accommodation was required, so the building of Tretower Court began and was continued over the next 350 years. With an architectural history almost as complex as the family succession, this charming fortified manor house offers the visitor an evocative glimpse of the lifestyle enjoyed by the more affluent members of society during the Middle Ages.
Among the early owners of Tretower Court are listed Lord Berkeley and the Earl of Pembroke, but probably the most noted link with the house is that of Henry Vaughan, the 'Silurist'. Henry was a nephew to the owner of Tretower and never actually lived at the house, but history records that he had an intimate association with the property, inspired by the tranquillity of its surrounding environment. As a great poet and distinguished writer, whose works are highly acclaimed among the literature of 17th century England, Henry's love of the gentle Usk valley and the hauntingly beautiful Black Mountains was captured for eternity by his words.
Up until 1783 Tretower Court was owned by descendants of Picard, although the family name changed several times as a result of the circumstances of inheritance.
By the middle of the 15th century the family name of Vaughan was firmly established, and it was Sir Roger Vaughan, an extremely wealthy commoner, who really made his mark on the new building, doubling the size and embellishing it with quality dressed stonework and ornate woodwork.
Additions and alterations were subsequently made, especially after it passed out of the family in the late 18th century to become a farm, but the core of the house remains essentially 14th/15th century in origin. Developed to form an irregular four-sided, two-storey building with a central courtyard, the house looks intriguingly different from every angle. There is a first floor timber gallery running the length of one range, there are battlemented wall walks along a further two ranges, and there is a most amazing combination of various window styles and doorways throughout the entire building.
Even though Tretower Court is devoid of furniture, this in no way detracts from the wonderful atmosphere of the individual rooms and, if anything, serves only to enhance the medieval beauty of the building. With no priceless works of art to admire, the eyes are able to focus on some of the surviving details of skilled craftsmanship, and appreciate how much intensive labour this work must have taken with their simple set of medieval tools. In comparison to the cold comforts afforded by the old stone castle, the relative luxury of this once grand and imposing 'modern' house must have seemed strangely disconcerting at first for the Vaughan family.
http://www.theheritagetrail.co.uk/manor%20houses/tretower%20court.htm
Latest discoveries ... 4
10.
(quote)
Search
Search powys.gov.uk
Search results for Shakespeare
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PDF document R/X/83 - 100%
... , etc, entitled `Enwogion Sir Frycheiniog', nd [1960s?] /19 Typescript of `Shakespeare and his Connections with [1960s/70s?] Breconshire', nd /20 Photocopy ...
http://www.powys.gov.uk/uploads/media/R_X_131_to_193_bi.pdf - 11/10/2007
http://www.powys.gov.uk/index.php?id=21
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The link gives this -
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R/X/165/DD REV D R DAVIES PAPERS Acc 1542
/19 Typescript of ‘Shakespeare and his Connections with [1960s/70s?]
Breconshire’, nd
/20 Photocopy of a manuscript entitled ‘ Shakespeare and the Welsh’, delivered to the Newport Literary Society, 1916, nd [1960s/70s?]
/21 File marked ‘Shakespeare and Brecon’, includes: typescript and manuscript drafts of ‘Shakespeare and his connections with Brecon, nd
/22 File marked ‘Brittany and Maximus’, includes: manuscript notes re religion in Radnorshire, nd [1950s/60s?]; Typescript with manuscript notes entitled ‘The Early Years of Brittany’, nd [1960s?]; Typescript of a paper, ‘The Early Celtic Church, delivered [by Prof Hugh Williams?] to the Builth Clergy, 1951; typescript of a paper, ’The Breconshire Tradition’. [delivered by Iris Foster at Brecon Cathedral?], 1956; manuscript notes re early Welsh Christianity, nd [1950s?]; cutting re churches, 1952; typescript featuring biographies of famous Breconshire/Radnorshire men, nd [1960s?]; correspondence with various libraries, 1955-56, 1973; photocopy of an article on the early history of St John’s College, Oxford, nd [1950s?];
cuttings re Shakespeare, nd [1950s?];
typescript note re Thomas Jenkins of Stratford, nd [1950s?]; typescript of a paper, ‘The Radnorshire Tradition’, nd [1950s/60s?]; manuscript and photocopy of a paper, ‘The Revolt of Maximus’, nd [1950s?] [1950]-1973
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Trebarried House near Llandefalle, c. 1960
Trebarried House near Llandefalle, c. 1960
View larger image
This item comes from: Brecknock Museum & Art Gallery (Item reference: ACG/1/155). If you would like to see the original item, or require information regarding copyright, please contact the repository/contributor named above.
A photograph from the extensive 'Houses of Breconshire' collection held by Brecknock Museum & Art Gallery. A survey of significant houses in the county was initiated by the Education Committee in 1959 as a service to teachers. Houses large and small, and in rural and urban locations, were recorded in photographs and measured drawings. As many of the buildings were in poor condition at the time, the material provides a valuable architectural record of traditional houses, some of which have not survived or have been radically altered.
Trebarried House, a 17th century mansion near Llandefalle, was built for a member of the Vaughan family.
http://www.gtj.org.uk/en/item1/22280
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Aerial photograph of Trebarried House and earthworks, 2001
http://www.tlysau.org.uk/en/blowup1/12313
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Historic Landscape Characterisation
The Middle Wye Valley
The following description, taken from the Historic Landscapes Register, identifies the essential historic landscape themes in the historic character area.
http://www.cpat.org.uk/projects/longer/histland/midwye/midwye.htm
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http://www.powys.gov.uk/index.php?id=647
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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12.
I've found a blog referring to the Shakespeare story of Clydach,
here is an excerpt from the post...
(written only 4 days
before I discovered the same BBC page myself...)
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(quote)
these anecdotes go back to at least to the 19th century, when it was
documented in a letter by the poet Campbell to Mrs. Fletcher that it
was thought that Shakespeare visited this village.
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About the Clydach, Gilwern and Llanelly Hill community
The canal at Gilwern
The Three Villages of Clydach, Gilwern and Llanelly Hill make up the
Llanelly parish ward of Monmouthshire County Council.
Situated four miles from the busy market town of Abergavenny this is
an area of outstanding natural beauty on the northernmost edge of the
Brecon Beacons National Park. Very close to the South Wales Valleys
The Clydach Gorge is an internationally renowned area of outstanding
natural beauty. The river Clydach meanders down the gorge, the banks
are lined with beech trees whilst beneath the earth there are miles of
caves. The Clydach Gorge is a haven for walkers and cavers.
Llanelly Hill perched on top of the escarpment is now largely a
dormitory village. There are spectacular views of the surrounding
countryside across the Beacons and the Black mountains for those that
visit this interesting village.
Clydach and William Shakespeare
Find out the links between William Shakespeare and Clydach in the new
article by Marit Meredith. Do you have any items about the history of
our area?
http://www.clydach-gilwern-llanellyhill.org.uk/
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Shakespeare and Clydach PDF Print E-mail
Clydach - and Shakespeare's Midsummer Night's Dream
The story goes that Shakespeare himself not only visited Clydach on
his travels, but that he also drew inspiration for Midsummer Night's
Dream from local myths and superstitions.
The great Bard is said to have stayed at Clydach House when he stayed
in the village- and was quoted as 'the stranger who came looking for
the house of many windows' (which it still has to this day).
What would have spurred him on to come looking for this place, we'll
never know, unless the legends of Cwm Pwca (Hobgoblins' Dingle - or
Valley of Puck) were known further a field, perhaps.
It has been suggested that his friend Richard Price, son of Sir John
Price, of the Priory, Brecon, was the person who first made
Shakespeare aware of the Cambrian fairies and that when visiting his
friend, he sojourned to 'the Valley of Fairy Puck' (The fairy Glen)-
which became the principal machinery for his Midsummer Night's Dream -
supposedly penned as he sat in what is now known as Shakespeare's
Cave, in a dingle just above Cwm Pwca.
Cwm Pwca was where waters from the river Clydach mingled with waters
from another stream - a place that filled people with dread, because
of the malicious powers of some evil spirits believed to be residing
there.
Cwm Pwca lies below Devil's Bridge (the bridge can be accessed by
walking down past the Drum and Monkey in Blackrock, on through the
subway under the Heads of the Valley Road, then continuing down
towards the river). It is apparently called Devil's Bridge because it
looks as though the face of the devil himself is hewn into the rock
below. The river runs through a narrow channel at this point and drops
straight down into a swirling pool below, which is called 'Pwll Cwn' -
or the Dog's Pool. This dark and cavernous pool forms the centre of
the valley called Cwm Pwca -
and was where
Shakespeare
is thought to have visited and got his inspiration, if not his
knowledge, of Puck, who he subsequently introduced into his Midsummer
Night's Dream.
So is the Pwca of Clydach and the 'shrewd knavish sprite that frights
the maidens of the villag'ry ... at every turn' one and the same? It
would certainly seem so...
http://www.clydach-gilwern-llanellyhill.org.uk/
index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=99
&Itemid=38
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(quote)
Search
Search powys.gov.uk
Search results for Shakespeare
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PDF document R/X/83 - 100%
... , etc, entitled `Enwogion Sir Frycheiniog', nd [1960s?] /19 Typescript of `Shakespeare and his Connections with [1960s/70s?] Breconshire', nd /20 Photocopy ...
http://www.powys.gov.uk/uploads/media/R_X_131_to_193_bi.pdf - 11/10/2007
http://www.powys.gov.uk/index.php?id=21
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The link gives this -
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R/X/165/DD REV D R DAVIES PAPERS Acc 1542
/19 Typescript of ‘Shakespeare and his Connections with [1960s/70s?]
Breconshire’, nd
/20 Photocopy of a manuscript entitled ‘ Shakespeare and the Welsh’, delivered to the Newport Literary Society, 1916, nd [1960s/70s?]
/21 File marked ‘Shakespeare and Brecon’, includes: typescript and manuscript drafts of ‘Shakespeare and his connections with Brecon, nd
/22 File marked ‘Brittany and Maximus’, includes: manuscript notes re religion in Radnorshire, nd [1950s/60s?]; Typescript with manuscript notes entitled ‘The Early Years of Brittany’, nd [1960s?]; Typescript of a paper, ‘The Early Celtic Church, delivered [by Prof Hugh Williams?] to the Builth Clergy, 1951; typescript of a paper, ’The Breconshire Tradition’. [delivered by Iris Foster at Brecon Cathedral?], 1956; manuscript notes re early Welsh Christianity, nd [1950s?]; cutting re churches, 1952; typescript featuring biographies of famous Breconshire/Radnorshire men, nd [1960s?]; correspondence with various libraries, 1955-56, 1973; photocopy of an article on the early history of St John’s College, Oxford, nd [1950s?];
cuttings re Shakespeare, nd [1950s?];
typescript note re Thomas Jenkins of Stratford, nd [1950s?]; typescript of a paper, ‘The Radnorshire Tradition’, nd [1950s/60s?]; manuscript and photocopy of a paper, ‘The Revolt of Maximus’, nd [1950s?] [1950]-1973
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11.
(quote)
Trebarried House near Llandefalle, c. 1960
Trebarried House near Llandefalle, c. 1960
View larger image
This item comes from: Brecknock Museum & Art Gallery (Item reference: ACG/1/155). If you would like to see the original item, or require information regarding copyright, please contact the repository/contributor named above.
A photograph from the extensive 'Houses of Breconshire' collection held by Brecknock Museum & Art Gallery. A survey of significant houses in the county was initiated by the Education Committee in 1959 as a service to teachers. Houses large and small, and in rural and urban locations, were recorded in photographs and measured drawings. As many of the buildings were in poor condition at the time, the material provides a valuable architectural record of traditional houses, some of which have not survived or have been radically altered.
Trebarried House, a 17th century mansion near Llandefalle, was built for a member of the Vaughan family.
http://www.gtj.org.uk/en/item1/22280
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Aerial photograph of Trebarried House and earthworks, 2001
http://www.tlysau.org.uk/en/blowup1/12313
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Historic Landscape Characterisation
The Middle Wye Valley
The following description, taken from the Historic Landscapes Register, identifies the essential historic landscape themes in the historic character area.
http://www.cpat.org.uk/projects/longer/histland/midwye/midwye.htm
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http://www.powys.gov.uk/index.php?id=647
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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12.
I've found a blog referring to the Shakespeare story of Clydach,
here is an excerpt from the post...
(written only 4 days
before I discovered the same BBC page myself...)
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(quote)
these anecdotes go back to at least to the 19th century, when it was
documented in a letter by the poet Campbell to Mrs. Fletcher that it
was thought that Shakespeare visited this village.
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(quote, excerpts)
About the Clydach, Gilwern and Llanelly Hill community
The canal at Gilwern
The Three Villages of Clydach, Gilwern and Llanelly Hill make up the
Llanelly parish ward of Monmouthshire County Council.
Situated four miles from the busy market town of Abergavenny this is
an area of outstanding natural beauty on the northernmost edge of the
Brecon Beacons National Park. Very close to the South Wales Valleys
The Clydach Gorge is an internationally renowned area of outstanding
natural beauty. The river Clydach meanders down the gorge, the banks
are lined with beech trees whilst beneath the earth there are miles of
caves. The Clydach Gorge is a haven for walkers and cavers.
Llanelly Hill perched on top of the escarpment is now largely a
dormitory village. There are spectacular views of the surrounding
countryside across the Beacons and the Black mountains for those that
visit this interesting village.
Clydach and William Shakespeare
Find out the links between William Shakespeare and Clydach in the new
article by Marit Meredith. Do you have any items about the history of
our area?
http://www.clydach-gilwern-llanellyhill.org.uk/
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Shakespeare and Clydach PDF Print E-mail
Clydach - and Shakespeare's Midsummer Night's Dream
The story goes that Shakespeare himself not only visited Clydach on
his travels, but that he also drew inspiration for Midsummer Night's
Dream from local myths and superstitions.
The great Bard is said to have stayed at Clydach House when he stayed
in the village- and was quoted as 'the stranger who came looking for
the house of many windows' (which it still has to this day).
What would have spurred him on to come looking for this place, we'll
never know, unless the legends of Cwm Pwca (Hobgoblins' Dingle - or
Valley of Puck) were known further a field, perhaps.
It has been suggested that his friend Richard Price, son of Sir John
Price, of the Priory, Brecon, was the person who first made
Shakespeare aware of the Cambrian fairies and that when visiting his
friend, he sojourned to 'the Valley of Fairy Puck' (The fairy Glen)-
which became the principal machinery for his Midsummer Night's Dream -
supposedly penned as he sat in what is now known as Shakespeare's
Cave, in a dingle just above Cwm Pwca.
Cwm Pwca was where waters from the river Clydach mingled with waters
from another stream - a place that filled people with dread, because
of the malicious powers of some evil spirits believed to be residing
there.
Cwm Pwca lies below Devil's Bridge (the bridge can be accessed by
walking down past the Drum and Monkey in Blackrock, on through the
subway under the Heads of the Valley Road, then continuing down
towards the river). It is apparently called Devil's Bridge because it
looks as though the face of the devil himself is hewn into the rock
below. The river runs through a narrow channel at this point and drops
straight down into a swirling pool below, which is called 'Pwll Cwn' -
or the Dog's Pool. This dark and cavernous pool forms the centre of
the valley called Cwm Pwca -
and was where
Shakespeare
is thought to have visited and got his inspiration, if not his
knowledge, of Puck, who he subsequently introduced into his Midsummer
Night's Dream.
So is the Pwca of Clydach and the 'shrewd knavish sprite that frights
the maidens of the villag'ry ... at every turn' one and the same? It
would certainly seem so...
http://www.clydach-gilwern-llanellyhill.org.uk/
index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=99
&Itemid=38
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Latest discoveries ... 3
7.
Maps of the area -
Map for
Gwernyfed, Powys
UK
The map shows Hay-on-Wye,
Whitney-on-Wye, and Rhydspence,
Glasbury,
and Bredwardine.
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http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode
=&q=gwernyfed&sll=51.805218,-4.367065&sspn
=0.194457,0.466919&ie=UTF8&ll=52.043622,
-3.177795&spn=0.193427,0.466919&z=11
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Map for Tretower Court and Castle
The map shows Abergavenny
and Clydach.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode
=&q=Tretower&sll=51.927754,-3.177795&sspn
=0.193928,0.466919&ie=UTF8&ll=51.886213,
-3.176122&spn=0.194107,0.466919&z=11
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Or visit http://maps.google.com
and search from there.
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Two new maps -
Map including both
Gwernyfed
and Tretower Court and Castle
(Gwernyfed is where the green arrow is - near Velindre)
(Tretower Court and Castle is to the south)
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode
=&q=gwernyfed&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn
=31.922255,59.765625&ie=UTF8&ll=51.975999,
-3.177795&spn=0.193719,0.466919&z=11
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Map including the same area, also including Cirencester, Chepstow, and Tewkesbury.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode
=&q=gwernyfed&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn
=31.922255,59.765625&ie=UTF8&ll=51.828988,
-2.617493&spn=0.777421,1.867676&z=9
&iwloc=addr
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A third new map.
Map showing same area, with
Stratford-on-Avon.
(down, from the north-east corner of the map)
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode
=&q=gwernyfed&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn
=31.922255,59.765625&ie=UTF8&ll=52.005174,
-2.617493&spn=0.774376,1.867676&z=9
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This shows that Stratford-on-Avon, and Tewkesbury, etc.,
are not all that far from the area in Wales
where the stories originated from.
i.e, either William Shakespeare of Stratford, or Francis Bacon,
may, in only a little time, visit the area.
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My own view is that Christopher Marlowe is the author
of Shakespeare -
this blog is not about the question of authorship,
however.
It is intended to give the stories of "Shakespeare's visit to Wales",
whoever Shakespeare may be.
(Kit Marlowe, who maybe did not die in 1593 at Deptford,
may have visited Wales, of course, at any time after this.)
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8.
(quote, excerpts)
The first of them recorded at Bredwardine is Watkin Vaughan,
who wrote a letter to
lord Burghley
from there, 17 Dec. 1584.
His wife was Joan, daughter of Miles ap Harry of Newcourt, in the Golden Valley,
and niece to
Blanch Parry (q.v.), queen Elizabeth's maid of honour.
They had two sons, Harry, heir to Moccas and Bredwardine, and Rowland, heir of Newcourt.
This Rowland was the author of the remarkable book entitled
Most approved and long experienced waterworkes, 1610,
which contains a long epistle to
William Herbert, earl of Pembroke.
His wife was Elizabeth, daughter of Rowland Vaughan of Porthaml. HARRY VAUGHAN'S wife was a grand-daughter of Hugh Lewis of Harpton. Their heir was ROGER VAUGHAN (matriculated at Oxford, 11 May 1604, aged 15), who rebuilt Bredwardine castle, 1639-40.
His son, HARRY VAUGHAN, m. Frances, daughter of Walter Pye, in 1635. After his death, she m. Edward Cornewall, of the Stapleton family, and it was his son who succeeded to Moccas, having purchased Bredwardine for himself.
http://yba.llgc.org.uk/en/s-VAUG-BRO-1350.html
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9.
Falstaff and Sir John Oldcastle - a link to the Whitney-on-Wye area
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On one of the maps of the area
(Gwernyfed and Tretower),
I saw the place-name
Oldcastle.
`````````
Thinking of
Sir John Oldcastle, I looked for him at Wikipedia,
and discovered this -
`````````
(quote, excerpts)
John Oldcastle
Sir John Oldcastle (d. December 14, 1417), English Lollard leader, was
son of Sir Richard Oldcastle of Almeley in northwest Herefordshire and
grandson of another Sir John Oldcastle.
He was prosecuted for heresy against the Church, and escaped from the
Tower of London, after which he allegedly plotted against his old
friend Henry V. He was captured and executed in London, after which he
became a martyr. He is presumed to be the basis of William
Shakespeare's character Falstaff, whose name in earlier versions of
the play was Oldcastle.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Oldcastle
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Here is a map for
Almeley,
showing how very near it is to
Whitney-on-Wye (and Rhydspence) - !
(Whitney is to the south-west)
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=almeley&ie=UTF8
&om=1&ll=52.164219,-2.976007&spn
=0.192904,0.466919&z=11
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=almeley&ie=UTF8
&om=1&ll=52.164219,-2.976007&spn
=0.192904,0.466919&z=11&iwloc=addr
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Maps of the area -
Map for
Gwernyfed, Powys
UK
The map shows Hay-on-Wye,
Whitney-on-Wye, and Rhydspence,
Glasbury,
and Bredwardine.
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http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode
=&q=gwernyfed&sll=51.805218,-4.367065&sspn
=0.194457,0.466919&ie=UTF8&ll=52.043622,
-3.177795&spn=0.193427,0.466919&z=11
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Map for Tretower Court and Castle
The map shows Abergavenny
and Clydach.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode
=&q=Tretower&sll=51.927754,-3.177795&sspn
=0.193928,0.466919&ie=UTF8&ll=51.886213,
-3.176122&spn=0.194107,0.466919&z=11
```````````````````
Or visit http://maps.google.com
and search from there.
```````````````````
Two new maps -
Map including both
Gwernyfed
and Tretower Court and Castle
(Gwernyfed is where the green arrow is - near Velindre)
(Tretower Court and Castle is to the south)
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode
=&q=gwernyfed&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn
=31.922255,59.765625&ie=UTF8&ll=51.975999,
-3.177795&spn=0.193719,0.466919&z=11
`````````
Map including the same area, also including Cirencester, Chepstow, and Tewkesbury.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode
=&q=gwernyfed&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn
=31.922255,59.765625&ie=UTF8&ll=51.828988,
-2.617493&spn=0.777421,1.867676&z=9
&iwloc=addr
`````````
A third new map.
Map showing same area, with
Stratford-on-Avon.
(down, from the north-east corner of the map)
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode
=&q=gwernyfed&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn
=31.922255,59.765625&ie=UTF8&ll=52.005174,
-2.617493&spn=0.774376,1.867676&z=9
```````````````````
This shows that Stratford-on-Avon, and Tewkesbury, etc.,
are not all that far from the area in Wales
where the stories originated from.
i.e, either William Shakespeare of Stratford, or Francis Bacon,
may, in only a little time, visit the area.
```````````````````
My own view is that Christopher Marlowe is the author
of Shakespeare -
this blog is not about the question of authorship,
however.
It is intended to give the stories of "Shakespeare's visit to Wales",
whoever Shakespeare may be.
(Kit Marlowe, who maybe did not die in 1593 at Deptford,
may have visited Wales, of course, at any time after this.)
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8.
(quote, excerpts)
The first of them recorded at Bredwardine is Watkin Vaughan,
who wrote a letter to
lord Burghley
from there, 17 Dec. 1584.
His wife was Joan, daughter of Miles ap Harry of Newcourt, in the Golden Valley,
and niece to
Blanch Parry (q.v.), queen Elizabeth's maid of honour.
They had two sons, Harry, heir to Moccas and Bredwardine, and Rowland, heir of Newcourt.
This Rowland was the author of the remarkable book entitled
Most approved and long experienced waterworkes, 1610,
which contains a long epistle to
William Herbert, earl of Pembroke.
His wife was Elizabeth, daughter of Rowland Vaughan of Porthaml. HARRY VAUGHAN'S wife was a grand-daughter of Hugh Lewis of Harpton. Their heir was ROGER VAUGHAN (matriculated at Oxford, 11 May 1604, aged 15), who rebuilt Bredwardine castle, 1639-40.
His son, HARRY VAUGHAN, m. Frances, daughter of Walter Pye, in 1635. After his death, she m. Edward Cornewall, of the Stapleton family, and it was his son who succeeded to Moccas, having purchased Bredwardine for himself.
http://yba.llgc.org.uk/en/s-VAUG-BRO-1350.html
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9.
Falstaff and Sir John Oldcastle - a link to the Whitney-on-Wye area
```````````````````
On one of the maps of the area
(Gwernyfed and Tretower),
I saw the place-name
Oldcastle.
`````````
Thinking of
Sir John Oldcastle, I looked for him at Wikipedia,
and discovered this -
`````````
(quote, excerpts)
John Oldcastle
Sir John Oldcastle (d. December 14, 1417), English Lollard leader, was
son of Sir Richard Oldcastle of Almeley in northwest Herefordshire and
grandson of another Sir John Oldcastle.
He was prosecuted for heresy against the Church, and escaped from the
Tower of London, after which he allegedly plotted against his old
friend Henry V. He was captured and executed in London, after which he
became a martyr. He is presumed to be the basis of William
Shakespeare's character Falstaff, whose name in earlier versions of
the play was Oldcastle.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Oldcastle
`````````
Here is a map for
Almeley,
showing how very near it is to
Whitney-on-Wye (and Rhydspence) - !
(Whitney is to the south-west)
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=almeley&ie=UTF8
&om=1&ll=52.164219,-2.976007&spn
=0.192904,0.466919&z=11
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=almeley&ie=UTF8
&om=1&ll=52.164219,-2.976007&spn
=0.192904,0.466919&z=11&iwloc=addr
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Latest discoveries ... 2
4.
One of the links of the Vaughans and Herberts.
(quote, excerpts)
VAUGHAN family, of Hergest , Kington , Herefords.
The first of the Vaughans to reside here was THOMAS AP ROGER VAUGHAN, son of Roger Vaughan of Bredwardine, who was killed at Agincourt (see Vaughan family of Bredwardine). His mother was Gwladys, daughter of Dafydd Gam (q.v.).
He was, therefore, a full brother of Watkin Vaughan of Bredwardine, and Sir Roger Vaughan of Tretower (see Vaughan family of Tretower),
and a uterine brother of Sir William Herbert, earl of Pembroke (q.v.),
and of Sir Richard Herbert.
http://yba.llgc.org.uk/en/s-VAUG-HER-1400.html
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5. More Whitney family tree.
(quote)
Archive:Limbus Patrum Morganiae
From WRG
G. T. CLARK, Limbus patrum Morganiæ et Glamorganiæ (London: Wyman & Sons, 1886).
Index: 0 Touchet; 1 Whitney (only), Eustace, p. 248
pp. 241
"XV. Sir ROGER VAUGHAN of Parthaml in Talgarth, M.P. for Brecknockshire 1547, 1662, 54, 1558. Knighted about 1550.
Second son of Sir Roger of Tretower and Denise Vaughan.
He had a grant of Bronllys Castle.
He m. 1st Eleanor, eldest d. of Henry Somerset, Earl of Worcester, and sister of Lady Mansel;
and 2nd Jane, d. of Robert ap (son of) Sir Robert Whitney of Whitney by Constance Touchet, his second wife,
with whom Sir Roger had lands in Talgarth (this is unclear - did Robert ap Sir Robert m. 2nd Constance Touchet and hold lands or was it actually (as stated) Sir Roger?).
They had: 1. Watkin. 2. Thomas of Tregunter, m. Elizabeth, d. of Harry Miles of Poston. They had William Vaughan father of (a) William
(b) Sybil, m. William ap Harry (from Vaughan of Porthaml) of Trebarried;
William was father Hugh Vaughan of Trebarried, living 1623.
3. Henry Vaughan of Bronllys.
4. Elizabeth, m. Thomas Morgan of Machen.
5. a dau., m. Jenkin ap Tomas Prosser of Aberllyfni.
6. Eleanor, m. 1st Howel of Argoed, called also Howel ap Gwilim Powel of Brecon. His first wife was Margaret d. of William ap John Havard, by whom he had Thomas Powel,
who m. Sybil, d. of Sir William Vaughan, Kt.
Eleanor m. 2nd Thomas ap Rytherch of Lliwell.
7. Joan, m. William Morgan of the Friars, Newport.
He (Sir Roger Vaughan) had also of base children: 8. Robert Vaughan of Bronllys. 9. Robert Vaughan of Tregunter. 10. Thomas Vaughan of Trepicca. 11. a dau., m. Thomas ap Robert of Maesglas."
pp. 248.
sub VAUGHAN - unplaced entries.
"Eustace Whitney of Whitney m. Margaret, d. and co-h. of William Vaughan of Glasbury, and had SIR ROBERT WHITNEY of Whitney, and others."
http://wiki.whitneygen.org/wrg/index.php/Archive:Limbus_Patrum_Morganiae
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6. Whitney (and Vaughan) family tree, royal ancestry.
Thomas VAUGHN
Born: Abt. 1467
married
Joan (Jean) WHITNEY
Born: Abt 1469 Place: Of Whitney, Herfordshire, England
Father: Robert WHITNEY
Mother: Constance TOUCHET
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Constance TOUCHET
Birth: Abt 1443
Of Heleigh, Staffordshire, England
Father: James TOUCHET
Mother: Eleanor De HOLAND
m. Robert WHITNEY
Marriage: Abt 1464
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Eleanor De HOLAND
Birth: Abt 1405
Kenilworth, Warwickshire, England
Father: Edmund De HOLAND
Mother: Constance Princess Of ENGLAND
m. James TOUCHET
Marriage: 14 Feb 1429
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Constance Princess Of ENGLAND
Birth: Abt 1374
Of Castle, Conisbrough, Yorkshire, England
Christening:
Of Kings Langley, Hertfordshire, England
Death: 28 Nov 1416
Reading, Berkshire, England
Burial:
Abbey, Reading, Berkshire, England
Father: Edmund "of Langley" Prince Of ENGLAND
Mother: Isabel Princess Of CASTILE AND LEON
m. Edmund De HOLAND
m. Thomas Le DESPENCER
Marriage: Aft 16 1378 Apr
Of Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
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Edmund "of Langley" Prince Of ENGLAND
Birth: 5 Jun 1341
King's Langley, Hertfordshire, England
Christening:
King's Langley, Hertfordshire, England
Death: 1 Aug 1402
Langley, Hertfordshire, England
Burial:
Church Of The Dominicans, Langley, Hertfordshire, England
Father: Edward III King Of ENGLAND
Mother: Philippa Queen Of ENGLAND
m. Isabel Princess Of CASTILE AND LEON
Marriage: Aft 1 1371/1372 Jan
Of Hertford Castle, Hertford, Hertfordshire, England
m. Joan De HOLAND
Marriage: Bef 4 1393 Nov
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Edward III King Of ENGLAND
Birth: 13 Nov 1312
Windsor Castle, Windsor, Berkshire, England
Christening: 20 Nov 1312
Death: 21 Jun 1377
Shene Palace, Surrey, England
Burial:
Westminster Abbey, Westminster, Middlesex, England
Father: Edward II King Of ENGLAND
Mother: Isabelle Princess Of FRANCE
m. Philippa Queen Of ENGLAND
Marriage: 24 Jan 1327/1328
York Minster, York, Yorkshire, England
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Isabelle Princess Of FRANCE
Birth: 1292
Of Paris, France
Death: 21 Nov 1358
Hertford Castle, Hertfordshire, England
Burial: 27 Nov 1358
Grey Friars, London, Middlesex, England
Father: Philippe IV King Of FRANCE
Mother: Jeanne Princess Of NAVARRE
m. Edward II King Of ENGLAND
Marriage: 22 Jan 1307/1308
Boulogne, Pas-De-Calais, France
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Philippa Queen Of ENGLAND
Birth: Abt 1314
Of Le Quesnoy, Nord, France
Death: 15 Aug 1369
Windsor Castle, Windsor, Berkshire, England
Burial:
Westminster Abbey, Westminster, Middlesex, England
Father: Willem III De AVESNES
Mother: Jeanne De VALOIS
m. Edward III King Of ENGLAND
Marriage: 24 Jan 1327/1328
York Minster, York, Yorkshire, England
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One of the links of the Vaughans and Herberts.
(quote, excerpts)
VAUGHAN family, of Hergest , Kington , Herefords.
The first of the Vaughans to reside here was THOMAS AP ROGER VAUGHAN, son of Roger Vaughan of Bredwardine, who was killed at Agincourt (see Vaughan family of Bredwardine). His mother was Gwladys, daughter of Dafydd Gam (q.v.).
He was, therefore, a full brother of Watkin Vaughan of Bredwardine, and Sir Roger Vaughan of Tretower (see Vaughan family of Tretower),
and a uterine brother of Sir William Herbert, earl of Pembroke (q.v.),
and of Sir Richard Herbert.
http://yba.llgc.org.uk/en/s-VAUG-HER-1400.html
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5. More Whitney family tree.
(quote)
Archive:Limbus Patrum Morganiae
From WRG
G. T. CLARK, Limbus patrum Morganiæ et Glamorganiæ (London: Wyman & Sons, 1886).
Index: 0 Touchet; 1 Whitney (only), Eustace, p. 248
pp. 241
"XV. Sir ROGER VAUGHAN of Parthaml in Talgarth, M.P. for Brecknockshire 1547, 1662, 54, 1558. Knighted about 1550.
Second son of Sir Roger of Tretower and Denise Vaughan.
He had a grant of Bronllys Castle.
He m. 1st Eleanor, eldest d. of Henry Somerset, Earl of Worcester, and sister of Lady Mansel;
and 2nd Jane, d. of Robert ap (son of) Sir Robert Whitney of Whitney by Constance Touchet, his second wife,
with whom Sir Roger had lands in Talgarth (this is unclear - did Robert ap Sir Robert m. 2nd Constance Touchet and hold lands or was it actually (as stated) Sir Roger?).
They had: 1. Watkin. 2. Thomas of Tregunter, m. Elizabeth, d. of Harry Miles of Poston. They had William Vaughan father of (a) William
(b) Sybil, m. William ap Harry (from Vaughan of Porthaml) of Trebarried;
William was father Hugh Vaughan of Trebarried, living 1623.
3. Henry Vaughan of Bronllys.
4. Elizabeth, m. Thomas Morgan of Machen.
5. a dau., m. Jenkin ap Tomas Prosser of Aberllyfni.
6. Eleanor, m. 1st Howel of Argoed, called also Howel ap Gwilim Powel of Brecon. His first wife was Margaret d. of William ap John Havard, by whom he had Thomas Powel,
who m. Sybil, d. of Sir William Vaughan, Kt.
Eleanor m. 2nd Thomas ap Rytherch of Lliwell.
7. Joan, m. William Morgan of the Friars, Newport.
He (Sir Roger Vaughan) had also of base children: 8. Robert Vaughan of Bronllys. 9. Robert Vaughan of Tregunter. 10. Thomas Vaughan of Trepicca. 11. a dau., m. Thomas ap Robert of Maesglas."
pp. 248.
sub VAUGHAN - unplaced entries.
"Eustace Whitney of Whitney m. Margaret, d. and co-h. of William Vaughan of Glasbury, and had SIR ROBERT WHITNEY of Whitney, and others."
http://wiki.whitneygen.org/wrg/index.php/Archive:Limbus_Patrum_Morganiae
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6. Whitney (and Vaughan) family tree, royal ancestry.
Thomas VAUGHN
Born: Abt. 1467
married
Joan (Jean) WHITNEY
Born: Abt 1469 Place: Of Whitney, Herfordshire, England
Father: Robert WHITNEY
Mother: Constance TOUCHET
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Constance TOUCHET
Birth: Abt 1443
Of Heleigh, Staffordshire, England
Father: James TOUCHET
Mother: Eleanor De HOLAND
m. Robert WHITNEY
Marriage: Abt 1464
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Eleanor De HOLAND
Birth: Abt 1405
Kenilworth, Warwickshire, England
Father: Edmund De HOLAND
Mother: Constance Princess Of ENGLAND
m. James TOUCHET
Marriage: 14 Feb 1429
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Constance Princess Of ENGLAND
Birth: Abt 1374
Of Castle, Conisbrough, Yorkshire, England
Christening:
Of Kings Langley, Hertfordshire, England
Death: 28 Nov 1416
Reading, Berkshire, England
Burial:
Abbey, Reading, Berkshire, England
Father: Edmund "of Langley" Prince Of ENGLAND
Mother: Isabel Princess Of CASTILE AND LEON
m. Edmund De HOLAND
m. Thomas Le DESPENCER
Marriage: Aft 16 1378 Apr
Of Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
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Edmund "of Langley" Prince Of ENGLAND
Birth: 5 Jun 1341
King's Langley, Hertfordshire, England
Christening:
King's Langley, Hertfordshire, England
Death: 1 Aug 1402
Langley, Hertfordshire, England
Burial:
Church Of The Dominicans, Langley, Hertfordshire, England
Father: Edward III King Of ENGLAND
Mother: Philippa Queen Of ENGLAND
m. Isabel Princess Of CASTILE AND LEON
Marriage: Aft 1 1371/1372 Jan
Of Hertford Castle, Hertford, Hertfordshire, England
m. Joan De HOLAND
Marriage: Bef 4 1393 Nov
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Edward III King Of ENGLAND
Birth: 13 Nov 1312
Windsor Castle, Windsor, Berkshire, England
Christening: 20 Nov 1312
Death: 21 Jun 1377
Shene Palace, Surrey, England
Burial:
Westminster Abbey, Westminster, Middlesex, England
Father: Edward II King Of ENGLAND
Mother: Isabelle Princess Of FRANCE
m. Philippa Queen Of ENGLAND
Marriage: 24 Jan 1327/1328
York Minster, York, Yorkshire, England
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Isabelle Princess Of FRANCE
Birth: 1292
Of Paris, France
Death: 21 Nov 1358
Hertford Castle, Hertfordshire, England
Burial: 27 Nov 1358
Grey Friars, London, Middlesex, England
Father: Philippe IV King Of FRANCE
Mother: Jeanne Princess Of NAVARRE
m. Edward II King Of ENGLAND
Marriage: 22 Jan 1307/1308
Boulogne, Pas-De-Calais, France
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Philippa Queen Of ENGLAND
Birth: Abt 1314
Of Le Quesnoy, Nord, France
Death: 15 Aug 1369
Windsor Castle, Windsor, Berkshire, England
Burial:
Westminster Abbey, Westminster, Middlesex, England
Father: Willem III De AVESNES
Mother: Jeanne De VALOIS
m. Edward III King Of ENGLAND
Marriage: 24 Jan 1327/1328
York Minster, York, Yorkshire, England
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Thursday 6 March 2008
Latest discoveries ...
1. The Vaughan family
(quote, excerpts)
The Morgans also give the derivation of the surname Vaughan to illustrate the influence of English customs on a family located in a bilingual border area.
"The first great Vaughan family is located in Bredwardine, Hereford. The name of this family has its origins in the Welsh epithet Fychan , attached to the name of Rhosier .... who was killed protecting the body of Henry V at the battle of Agincourt in 1415. This Rhosier's father was Rhosier, therefore the father had to be Rhosier Hen 'the Old' and the son Rhosier Fychan, i.e. 'Young Roger'. Rhosier's sons (not all) are called Fychan or Vaughan, and it is fairly clear that Vaughan in this generation had become the surname."
The first known member of this Cardiganshire family to bear the name was Llywelyn Fychan, born around the year 1250).
"Welsh Surnames" by T.J. Morgan and Prys Morgan. (University of Wales Press, 1985, ISBN 0-7083-0936-4).
http://www.data-wales.co.uk/names.htm
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2. The Williams family
Henry WILLIAMS
Birth: Abt 1570
Of Gwernevet, Breconshire, Wales
Death: 21 Oct 1636
Gwernevet, Breconshire, Wales
Burial:
Breconshire, Wales
Father: David WILLIAMS
Mother:
m. Eleanor WHITNEY
Marriage: Bef 1607
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David WILLIAMS
Birth: Abt. 1544
Of Gwernevet, Breconshire, Wales
Death: 22 Jan 1612/1613
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3. The Vaughan family, and their link to the Whitneys of Whitney.
(quote, excerpts)
The best known of the line was Sir Roger Vaughan, of Bredwardine,
Herefordshire, who fell in the battle of Agincourt, and was, like his neighbour
and father-in-law, Sir David Gam, vainly knighted by Henry V. while dying on the field.
The house of the Vaughans,
now a farmhouse in the village of Tre-twr,
is generally overlooked by searchers after the antiquarian and picturesque.
Leland calls it "the faire place of Henry Vehan, Esq."
Vaughans of Trebarried.
The Vaughans of Trebarried were a branch of those of Tre'rtwr
(Tretower), deriving as Vaughans from "Roger Vaughan of Talgarth," and son,
according to the St. Mark's Coll. MS., of Sir Roger of Tre'rtwr, son of the first knight (of Agincourt)
of that name.
Maternally they were derived from a Norman line, the mother of the first Vaughan (Roger)
of Trebarried
being dau. and co-heiress of Robert Whitney, Esq.,
commonly called Lord Whitney,
and back in direct line to "Roger de Montgomery, Earl of Belesmo" in Normandy,
who "came into England with William the Conqueror," and so on, as usual.
from
Annals and Antiquities of the Counties and County Families of Wales
Old families of British origin.
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=M34ystsNDn8C&pg=PA95&lpg=PA95
&dq=vaughan+trebarried+whitney&source=web&ots=I5zSVQyY8h&sig=SFAN
aPe95vvHKu-ZhPaX2gvqfZg&hl=en
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Williams of Gwernyfed
Williams of Gwernyfed
The families that owned Old Gwernyfed Manor House, at the time -
and is "Givernevett"
Gwernyfed?
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(quote, excerpts)
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(1) The name is first linked with Gwernyfed in the person of Sir DAVID WILLIAMS (1536?-1613), judge,
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In 1600 he bought the Gwernyfed estate from John Gunter, the last of the old proprietors; and he also had other estates (and tithes) in Brecknock and other border counties.
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WILLIAMS families, of Gwernyfed, in the parish of Glasbury , Brecknock ; there were two Williams families at that place:
(1) The name is first linked with Gwernyfed in the person of Sir DAVID WILLIAMS (1536?-1613), judge, the youngest son of Gwilym ap John Vychan, of Blaen Newydd (=Blaen Nedd?), Ystradfellte, who was the cousin of Sir John Price of Brecon (q.v.). David Williams was called to the Bar from the Middle Temple in 1576. His career, which is given in the D.N.B., was a highly successful one.
He became attorney-general for five of the South Wales counties in the Great Sessions (1581-5), recorder of Brecon (1587-1604) and of Carmarthen, Member of Parliament for Brecon (1584-93 and 1597-1604); he was appointed a sergeant-at-law in 1593, knighted by James I, and raised to the King's Bench. He d. 22 Jan. 1612/13, and was buried in the Priory church at Brecon (see his epitaph in Theophilus Jones, 3rd ed., ii, 68).
In 1600 he bought the Gwernyfed estate from John Gunter, the last of the old proprietors; and he also had other estates (and tithes) in Brecknock and other border counties.
http://yba.llgc.org.uk/en/s-WILL-GWE-1536.html
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Gwernyfed or Givernevett?
The first daughter of the Whitney and Vaughan marriage, in an earlier post, married a Williams of Gwernyfed.
This links the locations of Trebarried (Shakespeare's Cave) and Gwernyfed (Shakespeare inscription on the Minstrel's Screen) in a close family link.
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(quote, excerpts)
EUSTACE WHITNEY, second son of Sir Robert, succeeded Sir James in 1587, and held the estate twenty-one years. He married, somewhat late in life and after thus becoming head of the family,
Margaret, daughter and coheir of William Vaughan of Glasbury.
The births of all their children, except the eldest, are recorded in the Parish Register of Whitney. They were:
1. Eleanor, who married Sir Henry Williams, Knight, of Givernevett, Brecknockshire.
(etc.)
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Children of Eustace and Margaret (Vaughan) Whitney:
i. Eleanor Whitney, b. say 1589, Whitney, Herefordshire;[9] m. Sir Henry Williams, Knight, of
Givernevett, Brecknockshire.
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(finish of quote)
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Givernevett
is
GWERNYFED
* see the following -
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(quote, excerpts)
The information that I have is a bit confusing - we have family trees from the Gwernyfed family (some of them spell it Gwernyvet - I imagine that was a mistake) but they can be rather hard to follow.
Kind regards, Camilla
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AS for the spelling of Gwernyfed, your alternative spelling is merely an attempt to anglicise the word, which was a common practice in the past, especially amongst the gentry and at times when the Welsh language was seen as a disadvantage to social status.
Gwernyfed is also quite close to the English border, being only a few miles from Hay on Wye.
Cheers for now, Hilary
http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/POWYS/2006-07/1153056566
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Vaughan Whitney marriage
An example of Whitney/Vaughan marriages -
note also the marriage to
a Lucy (of Charlecote)
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(quote)
Family:Whitney, Eustace (s1545-1608) From WRG
Eustace Whitney (Robert, Robert, James, Robert, Eustace, Robert, Robert, Robert, Eustace, Eustace, Robert, ...), son of Sir Robert and Sibyl (Baskerville) Whitney,[1] was born say 1545, Whitney, Herefordshire,[2] and was buried 12 Jul 1608, Whitney, Herefordshire. [3]
He married, say 1588, Margaret Vaughan,[4] daughter and coheiress of William and Elynor (Mathewes) Vaughan, of Glasbury.[5] She was born say 1565,[6] and was buried 26 Jul 1608, Whitney, Herefordshire.[7]
EUSTACE WHITNEY, second son of Sir Robert, succeeded Sir James in 1587, and held the estate twenty-one years. He married, somewhat late in life and after thus becoming head of the family, Margaret, daughter and coheir of William Vaughan of Glasbury. The births of all their children, except the eldest, are recorded in the Parish Register of Whitney. They were:
1.
Eleanor, who married Sir Henry Williams, Knight, of Givernevett, Brecknockshire.
2.
Joan, born September 15, 1591, who married John Wigmore of Lacton, Herefordshire.
3. Robert, born September 23, 1592, who will be spoken of at length later.
4. Thomas, born July 28, 1594. Admitted June 22, 1610, to St. John College, Oxford.
Eustace was not knighted, and, so far as appears, held but one public office, that of sheriff of Herefordshire in 1596. The old register contains these two entries, almost obliterated by time:
Margret wyfe of Eustace Whitney was buried 26 of July, 1606.
Eustace Whitney Esq. was buried the 12 daye of July, 1608.[8]
Children of Eustace and Margaret (Vaughan) Whitney:
i. Eleanor Whitney, b. say 1589, Whitney, Herefordshire;[9] m. Sir Henry Williams, Knight, of Givernevett, Brecknockshire.
ii. Joan Whitney, b. 15 Sep 1591, Whitney, Herefordshire;[10] m. John Wigmore of Lacton, Herefordshire.
iii. (Sir) Robert Whitney, b. 23 Sep 1592, Whitney, Herefordshire;
[11] m. Anne Lucy.
iv. Thomas Whitney, b. 28 Jul 1594, Whitney, Herefordshire. Admitted 22 Jun 1610 to St. John College, Oxford.[12] References
1.^ Melville, Henry, A.M., LL.B., The Ancestry of John Whitney: Who, with His Wife Elinor, and Sons John, Richard, Nathaniel, Thomas, and Jonathan, Emigrated from London, England, in the Year 1635, and Settled in Watertown, Massachusetts; the First of the Name in America, and the One from Whom a Great Majority of the Whitneys Now Living in the United States Are Descended (New York, NY: The De Vinne Press, 1896), p. 181.
2.^ The date is based on his older brother's age and the fact that he was the second son.
3.^ Melville, op. cit., p. 182.
4.^ Melville, op. cit., p. 181. Also the marriage of her parents at St. Peter's, Hereford, Herefordshire, on 22 Jun 1561, from the L.D.S. International Genealogical Index. See also: Clark (1886).
5.^ Melville, loc. cit.. Also the will of her father, William Vaughan of Maesllwch, Radnorshire, dated 12 August 1584, mentioning wife Elinor, daughter Margaret, and lands in Glasbury.
6.^ The date is estimated from the fact that she was the second of seven daughters mentioned in her father's will, together with the marriage date of her parents.
7.^ Melville, op. cit., p. 182.
8.^ Melville, op. cit., pp. 181-182.
9.^ Melville, op. cit., p. 181.
10.^ Ibid.
11.^ Melville, op. cit., p. 182.
12.^ Ibid.
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Vaughan of Golden Grove
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To return to the Vaughans,
and "Golden Grove" -
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(quote)
William Vaughan (writer)
Sir William Vaughan (1575 - August 1641) was a Welsh writer and colonial investor.
He was the son of Walter Vaughan (died 1598) and was born at
Golden Grove, Carmarthenshire, Wales--his father's estate.
He was descended from an ancient prince of Powys.
He was brother to John Vaughan, 1st Earl of Carbery (1572-1634) and General Sir Henry or Harry Vaughan (1587-1659), a well-known Royalist leader in the English Civil War.
William was educated at Jesus College, Oxford, and took the degree of Doctor of Laws at Vienna.
In 1616 he bought a grant of land, the southern Avalon Peninsula (from Calvert to Placentia Bay) of the island of Newfoundland, from the London and Bristol Company.
In 1617 he sent Welsh colonists to Renews to establish a permanent colony, which eventually failed. The colonists were ill equipped, without an experienced leader, and had built for themselves mere shacks for shelter for the winter.
By 1619 Vaughan had given up hope of establishing a colony and signed over part of his grant to Henry Cary. Vaughan's brother had convinced him to also to give up a portion of his tract to George Calvert, the area around Ferryland. This area George Calvert had established his Colony of Avalon.
Vaughan did retain the southern portion of his tract determined by a line drawn from Renews to Placentia Bay, an area that included Trepassey. Further attempts at colonizing Trepassey on two occasions had also failed.
Vaughan did visit his colony in 1622, which he called Cambriol, and returned to England in 1625. Vaughan apparently paid another visit to his colony, but his plans for its prosperity were foiled by the severe winters. In 1628 he transferred his interests to the colony of Virginia. He died at his house of Torcoed, Carmarthenshire, in August 1641.
His chief work is The Golden Grove (1600), a general guide to morals, politics and literature, in which the manners of the time are severely criticized, plays being denounced as folly and wickedness. The section in praise of poetry borrows much from earlier writers on the subject.
The Golden Fleece ... transported from Cambriol Colchis, by Orpheus junior (1626) is the most interesting of his other works. A long and fantastic prose allegory, it demonstrates "the Errours of Religion, the Vices and Decayes of the Kingdome, and lastly the wayes to get wealth, and to restore Trading" through the colonization of Newfoundland.
References
* This article incorporates text from the Encyclopædia Britannica
Eleventh Edition, a publication now in the public domain.
External links
* Biography at the Dictionary of Canadian Biography Online
* Text of The Golden Fleece
Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Vaughan_%28writer %29" Categories: 1575 births 1641 deaths Welsh writers Newfoundland and Labrador writers People from Carmarthenshire Alumni of Jesus College, Oxford
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Vaughan_(Welsh_writer_and_coloni...)
Trebarried in Wales
Trebarried in Wales
(quote, excerpts)
Trebarried is a fine example of an early mansion of considerable importance,
built for one of the famous Vaughan families,
descended from Sir Roger Vaughan of Herefordshire who was knighted by Henry V as he lay dying in the Battle of Agincourt.
The current house was apparently erected by William ab Henry Vaughan in 1640. Some historians believe it to have been built earlier and is almost certainly comprised of materials from an older house in the same spot.
The house and buildings have mullion and transom windows, some of which are believed to be late Tudor in origin with the out buildings that form Trebarried Court apparently late 17th Century.
http://www.stonetileroofing.com/homepages/bryan.nsf/d77c071aa7af4eb3c...
Shakespeare's Caves
Shakespeare's Caves
(quote, excerpts)
Shakespeare's Caves - Keith Jones (1998)
This is something I found on the Internet a few years ago. I don't remember where I got it from but thanks to those involved.
It was Mason (1866) who posed the idea that Hoyle's Mouth Cave near Tenby might be the model for Shakespeare's Belarius Cave in his play Cymbeline. He described the cave as being near Milford Haven and suggested that visitors would have passed within a few miles of the site. Indeed, one of the heroines of the play Imogen, had strayed much nearer to the sea during her travels.
Mason was particularly struck by the extraordinary similarity that existed between the two caves but did not consider two other famous caves situated much closer to Milford, just five miles or so by ferry. Wogan's Cavern beneath Pembroke Castle, and Priory Farm Cave just outside the town could be other contenders.
In his final analysis however, Mason concluded that any similarity was accidental, but this is not the end of Shakespeare, caves and Wales. The Great Bard is also associated with two other limestone sites in South Wales. Dale (1965) for example claimed:
`The Vale of Neath is a land of wooded glens, mountain torrents, turbulent waterfalls and crystal clear pools. It has been said that this sylvan paradise was the setting for Shakespeare's play A Mid Summer Night's Dream'.
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To further complicate the issues Beaumont, formally a special correspondent with The Daily Express, put the location of this particular scene in a second limestone area, Chepstow. While following the adventures of Baconists Dr Orville Owen wrote in the issue of 23rd February 1911:
"I learned that a few miles away there is a garden which is proudly shown to visitors as the garden where `A Mid Summer Night's Dream' was written. Even the bank of' Wild Thyme is there, with Titania's bower."
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On this occasion however, the author of the play was Bacon and not Shakespeare. Some commentators have refused to accept that such great plays could in fact have been written by someone who went to grammar school in the Midlands and they have attempted to prove that the plays were written by a member of the aristocracy or at least a graduate of Oxford or Cambridge. Apart from Bacon, several others have been credited with authorship of Shakespearian plays including an Elizabethan nun, The Earl of Oxford and Christopher Marlowe (Daiches 1971).
Francis Bacon (1561-1626), an English philosopher, threw over Aristotelian deductive logic for the inductive method. His impulsive writings which included `Novum Organum' gave rise to the founding of the Royal Society 36 years after his death. Some authorities claimed it was Bacon who was the true author of the Shakespearian plays. An American, Dr Orville Owen, was such a Bacon convert who claimed that Bacon had concealed his manuscripts but had left clues to their whereabouts. Owen charged Shakespeare as a drunken fraud and, in association with fellow American Dr William H. Prescott, worked out a complicated system for decoding ciphers whereby he could find hidden works of several Elizabethan authors.
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Owen argued that these ciphers were located in such works as Sir Phillip Sidney Knight's 'The Countess of Pembroke's Arcadia,' and even in `The Tempest'. Owen even gave an example of one such clue to the press:
`BECAUSEOFITALLIBURIEDECAVE'.
According to Owen these ciphers continually referred to a place called `Striguil'.
Owen learned when he arrived in Britain that 'Striguil' was a Norman corruption of the Welsh `Ystraigl,' the early Welsh name for Chepstow. Bacon's father-in- law lived near Chepstow, and Bacon had a business in the town. It was concluded that the missing manuscripts were packed into iron chests and buried somewhere in the lower Wye Valley. During 1909 he started a fruitless search in sites such as Peglar's Cave near Chepstow Castle:
`According to Dr Owen's readings of the cipher Bacon originally secreted his treasures in a cave or caves near Chepstow Castle then walled up the entrance and disguised its outward appearance in order to deceive prying eyes. Later on, fearing molestation, he removed the boxes and placed them in an excavation'.
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At one time the Daily Express special correspondent reported from the excavation below Wasp Hill a few hundred metres on the west bank, just above the castle. He reported that over 700 tons of mud had been removed from eight holes up to eight feet deep, with eye catching head- lines:
INTENSE EXCITEMENT AT CHEPSTOW
Progress of Shakespeare-Bacon Search. Discovery of Structure made of Stout Oak Timbers. Weird midnight visit to the scene.
Owen was convinced he was on to something, when he applied his cypher `the message which the author had so cunningly hidden, in a mosaic of words, stood out astonishing and clear' (Beaumont 1941 ). Eventually his backer, the Duke of Beaumont, withdrew financial support and that was the end of the venture. What are we to make of the idea of buried treasure? Perhaps Billy Bones from Treasure Island had sound advise, "Keep you weather eyes peeled for a sea faring man with one leg Jim, and search Ben Gunn's Cave."
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There is yet a third limestone site associated with Shakespeare generally, and "A Mid-Summer Night's Dream" specifically, in the Clydach Valley. Cwm Pwca is located south of the river, just downstream from the huge waterfall, and contains Shakespeare's Cave. Cwm Pwca aptly translates into `Valley of the Goblin. ' Harries ( 1919) claims of this valley:
There is a Welsh tradition to the effect that Shakespeare received his knowledge of the Cambrian fairies from his friend Richard Price, son of Sir John Price of The Priory, Brecon. It is even claimed that Cwm Pwca, or Puck Valley, a part of the romantic glen in Breconshire, is the original scene of A Mid-summer Night's Dream, a fancy as light and airy as Puck himself. Anyhow, there Cwm Pwca is, and in the sylvan days before Frere and Powell's ironworks were set up there it is said to have been as full of goblins as a Methodist's head is full of piety'.
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More recently, Jones-Pugh and Holiday ( 1979) concluded "Although there is no hard proof that the play-wright did indeed visit Brecon, nevertheless a strong case can be made out which suggests Shakespeare collected his fairy lore from Welsh sources." But nature spirits may no longer inhabit Cwm Pwca: `Unhappily today this area has long since been butchered by industrial development'.
It is interesting to note that Shakespeare had portrayed the Welsh with a sympathetic image of as brave, honourable, congenial and not in the usual comic role (Williams 1985).
Welsh nature-spirits were called `Ellyllon',
a word derived from `el', a spirit. There are in Wales other places bearing like names, where Pwca's pranks and nature spirits are well remembered by old inhabitants, Craig yr Dinas for one, but few are associated with Shakespeare.
http://www.striguil.co.uk/chepstow/shakespeare's_caves.htm
Rhydspence inn, Whitney on Wye
Rhydspence inn, Whitney on Wye
There is a THIRD location in the area,
linking to Shakespeare...
. . .
i. Shakespeare's Cave near Trebarried
ii. Old Gwernyfed Manor House
and now
iii. Rhydspence inn, Whitney on Wye
* all the places are very near each other, lending great credence to their stories.
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The Rhydspence Inn
A natural modesty prevents the Marches people from publicising the beauty of the English/Welsh border but the literary talents of several authors have been inspired by the wide green valley, lazy river and lush fields.
Letton Lake and the Wye Valley of Francis Kilverts are easy recognised, as is the Black Hill of Bruce Chatwin.
The Rhydspence gave sustenance to the former, who described the Inn as bright with lights and gaiety, and offered a long walk home to the heroes of the latter.
William Shakespeare is reputed to have paused and mused before putting pen to paper about Much Ado.
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The Rhydspence Inn, Whitney-on-Wye, Herefordshire HR3 6EU, United Kingdom.
Rhydspence has not always been the tranquil watering hole it is today. It was originally built in the 14th century as a manor house.
In Tudor times, and until the advent of the railways, the Inn was a main assembly point on the 'Black Ox Trail' for Welsh drovers and Irish cowboys pushing cattle, sheep and geese to the English towns and cities, as far as London.
Attached to the Inn were some 140 acres of land split up into penny, ha-penny and farthing fields where animals were grazed and rested.
The drovers were broadcasters of news and events and also a method of transferring funds across the country.
A deal could be struck in Aberdovey and cash banked in London with no movement of cash and no risk of highwaymen.
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The Rhydspence Inn is on the English side of the Welsh Border, the stream in the garden marks the divide. To the East are the rolling fields of England, dotted with the famous 'Black & White' villages of Herefordshire. To the West lie the hills and mountains of Wales.
The contrast applies equally to the border towns. 'Twenty miles into England stands the city of Hereford with its modern shopping centre and ancient cathedral. The cathedral houses two treasures which any visitor to the area must see, the fabulous medieval world map the 'Mappi Mundi' and an extraordinary Chained Library of priceless manuscripts.
Twenty miles into Wales stands the town of Brecon and its cathedral. Dwarfed by the mountains of the Brecon Beacons National Park, this is unrivalled walking country.
Our nearest town is Hay-on-Wye, the 'Town of books'. Hay boasts dozens of facilities. Antiquarian booksellers, from the tiny to the world's largest. Even the castle ruins have been pressed into service as a book shop!
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A natural modesty prevents the Marches people from publicising the beauty of the English/Welsh border but the literary talents of several authors have been inspired by the wide green valley, lazy river and lush fields.
Letton Lake and the Wye Valley of Francis Kilverts are easy recognised, as is the Black Hill of Bruce Chatwin.
The Rhydspence gave sustenance to the former, who described the Inn as bright with lights and gaiety, and offered a long walk home to the heroes of the latter.
William Shakespeare is reputed to have paused and mused before putting pen to paper about Much Ado.
http://www.rhydspence-inn.co.uk/
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Once a manor house, the Rhydspence Inn was also a favourite watering hole for Welsh and Irish drovers taking cattle, sheep and geese to market in London.
...stunning views over the Wye Valley. The pub also has literary connections, appearing in On The Black Hill by Bruce Chatwin,
and apparently acting as a site of inspiration for Shakespeare_ while penning Much Ado About Nothing.
http://www.theaa.com/travel/details/pub/375730
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Novel Inns
Characterful locals and literary locations in the Pub Guide
You've read the book and seen the film. Now sup in the local where the action happened. Or not. The AA 'Pub Guide 2008' has loads of hostelries linked with authors and their works.
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Many pubs claim to having served William Shakespeare. It is reputed that his parents held their wedding reception at the King's Head in Aston Cantlow, after they were married in the village church in 1557.
The Rhydspence Inn in Herefordshire apparently inspired William while penning Much Ado About Nothing. But it's a long way from the play's setting in Messina in Sicily.
Legend also has it that William contracted his fatal illness after stumbling home in the pouring rain after a drink at the Bell in Welford-on-Avon.
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Two London locations evoke the world of Charles Dickens. The George Inn is the only remaining galleried inn in London
* William Shakespeare was among its earlier clientele.
Dickens, following in his footsteps, mentions the Southwark building in 'Little Dorrit' (1857).
http://www.theaa.com/travel_editorial/food-pub-novel-inns.html
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Gwernyfed
Gwernyfed
A surprising NEW Shakespeare story...
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Old Gwernyfed Manor
Gwernyfed, the great Celtic longhouse home for a Welsh chieftain and his clan, was modernized in 1590. Three wings were added to the house, transforming its shape from the letter "I" to the letter "E", in honour of Elizabeth, the reigning Queen
She would have been pleased to see the great spiral staircase newly built around the huge oaken post. The oak was a mast from a ship of the wrecked Spanish Armada, washed up on the Welsh shore
William Shakespeare delighted in some of the other wood in the house: he carved a cryptic message on the oaken Minstrel's Screen. It was correctly deciphered only a few years ago by a British Intelligence officer who was staying at Old Gwernyfed Manor
http://www.storyfest.com/wales.html
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I am looking for the location of this house, vis a vis the Cave.
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This is what I found...
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Surrounding Area
Old Gwernyfed is approximately 5 miles from Hay-on-Wye where there are many second-hand book shops, antique shops, restaurants and inns.
There are also several good riding centres nearby. Canoeing on the River Wye is close by at Glasbury-on-Wye. Hill walking is available right on the doorstep.
The closest pub is The Three Horseshoes in the village.
http://www.stayinwales.co.uk/detail.cfm?idnum=6437
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1.
this is very near Whitney (on Wye)
2.
Glasbury is in the family tree information given on another page.
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Historic Landscape Characterisation The Middle Wye: Gwernyfed Gwernyfed, Powys (HLCA 1090)
CPAT PHOTO 1042.08A
Low-lying and gently-sloping landscape with former medieval deer park and hunting lodge, remains of formal Renaissance gardens and manor house, and 19th-century landscape park and country house.
A manor house had been built at the site of Old Gwernyfed by the later medieval period, possibly to one side of a deer park covering an extensive tract of land stretching from the foothills of the Black Mountains near Felindre to the banks of the Llynfi at Aberllynfi. The deer park
Old Gwernyfed on the southern side of the area (now a hotel) is a large early 17th-century Jacobean manor house built in sandstone rubble, the south-west wing of which has been in ruins since a fire in about 1780, with a pair of circular Tudor dovecots with conical roofs in the original forecourt. The house forms part of a complex which includes largel
http://www.cpat.org.uk/projects/longer/histland/midwye/mworname.htm
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see also
http://www.cpat.org.uk/projects/longer/histland/midwye/1090.htm
Historic Landscape Characterisation The Middle Wye Valley
First thoughts on the BBC ideas from Powys
First thoughts on the BBC ideas from Powys -
i. Parry
Blanche Parry is the queen's nurse and confidante
. . .
Her aunt married a Whitney and also a Herbert
. . .
In her will she left bequests to the Whitney family,
including to Eleanor Bull (nee Whitney).
. . .
ii. Vaughan
The Vaughans are linked by marriage to the Herberts
(the "incomparable brothers" of the First Folio, also of the Lord Pembroke's Men actors, and Lords of Wilton House, and Powys Castle)
. . .
iii. The Vaughans also linked by marriage to the Whitneys
(Eleanor Bull, Catherine Carey - Queen's great friend and (Admiral) Lord Howard's wife, and Blanche Parry close family link)
. . .
and one (Vaughan) is the author of Golden Grove and seems to know more than you'd think about the Deptford happenings - Eleanor Bull, Kit Marlowe, etc.)
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Margaret, are you grieving
Over Goldengrove unleaving?
Leaves, like the things of man, you
With your fresh thoughts care for, can you?
(excerpt of poem, Gerard Manley Hopkins)
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Millar Maclure prints the relevant passage from Vaughan's The Golden Grove (1600) in
Marlowe: the Critical Heritage 1588-1896 (London, 1979), pp. 46-47.
. . .
On the Parrys and the Vaughans, see Mary Delorme,
"A Watery Paradise: Rowland Vaughan and Hereford's 'Golden Vale'," History Today, 39 (July, 1989), 38-43.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/muchado/fine/killing.html
A summing up (for those without time to read the rest...)
Shakespeare's life in Wales
Little known stories of his time there
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A summing up -
(for those without time to read the rest...)
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The first daughter of the Whitney and Vaughan marriage, in an earlier post, married a Williams of Gwernyfed.
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This links the locations of Trebarried (Shakespeare's Cave)
the VAUGHANS
and Gwernyfed (Shakespeare inscription on the Minstrel's Screen)
the WILLIAMS
in a close family link.
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and the location of the THIRD Shakespeare story -
WHITNEY (The Rhydspence inn)
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* so all 3 locations are closely linked,
not only by place, on a map,
but by family marriage links.
Titania
by William Blake
Did Shakespeare write "A Midsummer Night's Dream" in a Welsh cave?
Did Shakespeare write
"A Midsummer Night's Dream"
in a Welsh cave?
. . .
An intriguing story...
little known.
. . .
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Powys Literary Links - William Shakespeare
A great deal of William Shakespeare's life is shrouded in mystery. In the parishes of Llandefalle and Bronllys, Breconshire legend has supplied the answer to one of the questions surrounding the playwright. Here, it is firmly believed that Shakespeare stayed at Trebarried around 1595.
Information provided by Powys County Archives:
The original house at Trebarried was the mansion of Bois, Lord of Trebois. All that can be seen of this are the remains of a moat in the field to the east of the house.
The present house, which Theophilus Jones says "rose from the ruins, and perhaps was partly composed of the materials of the old house, though not built on the same foundation" was built in the mid seventeenth century for William Parry or William ap Harry Vaughan, a descendent of Roger Vaughan of Bronllys (sometimes 'of Talgarth'), himself a natural son Sir Roger Vaughan of Tretower.
Whilst staying at Trebarried, Shakespeare is said to have visited the picturesque Clydach Gorge, near Abergavenny. Clydach was part of Breconshire at that time. Here, in a part of the gorge called the Fairy Glen, he is supposed to have written 'A Midsummer Night's Dream', which he intended for the celebrations at the wedding of a friend.
There is a cave in the gorge still called 'Shakespeare's Cave', where he sat, so the story goes, to write his fantasy of fairies, star-crossed lovers and 'rude mechanicals'. The cave is one of many in the area explored by cavers.
In the sixteenth century, the gorge was wild and largely unspoilt, though evidence has been found that it was the site of the earliest iron workings in the world. Later, the Industrial Revolution was to bring more extensive exploitation of the natural resources lying hidden beneath the gorge, as can be seen from the 1880 Ordnance Survey map.
We shall probably never really know whether Shakespeare visited Trebarried and Clydach, or where he wrote 'A Midsummer Night's Dream', but it does no harm for us to indulge in a little fantasy, and there is the compelling evidence of the name of that cave...
Information provided by Powys County Archives.
your comments
George Wood from Chatham This was very good and very helpful. I will recomend this to a few more people Fri Nov 24 15:42:06 2006
http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/mid/sites/bookshelf/pages/shakespeare.shtml
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We found 246 results for photos matching Clydach.
http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=clydach&page=2
. . .
We found 58 results for photos matching Clydach and Gorge.
http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=clydach+gorge&m=text
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Shakespeare in Wales
There will be posts on the following topics...
* A summing up
* First thoughts on the Powys ideas
* Old Gwernyfed Manor House
* Rhydspence at Whitney
* Shakespeare's Cave
* Trebarried in Wales
* Vaughan of Golden Grove
* Vaughan Whitney marriage
* Williams of Gwernyfed
"A Midsummer Night's Dream"
in a Welsh cave?
. . .
An intriguing story...
little known.
. . .
(quote)
Powys Literary Links - William Shakespeare
A great deal of William Shakespeare's life is shrouded in mystery. In the parishes of Llandefalle and Bronllys, Breconshire legend has supplied the answer to one of the questions surrounding the playwright. Here, it is firmly believed that Shakespeare stayed at Trebarried around 1595.
Information provided by Powys County Archives:
The original house at Trebarried was the mansion of Bois, Lord of Trebois. All that can be seen of this are the remains of a moat in the field to the east of the house.
The present house, which Theophilus Jones says "rose from the ruins, and perhaps was partly composed of the materials of the old house, though not built on the same foundation" was built in the mid seventeenth century for William Parry or William ap Harry Vaughan, a descendent of Roger Vaughan of Bronllys (sometimes 'of Talgarth'), himself a natural son Sir Roger Vaughan of Tretower.
Whilst staying at Trebarried, Shakespeare is said to have visited the picturesque Clydach Gorge, near Abergavenny. Clydach was part of Breconshire at that time. Here, in a part of the gorge called the Fairy Glen, he is supposed to have written 'A Midsummer Night's Dream', which he intended for the celebrations at the wedding of a friend.
There is a cave in the gorge still called 'Shakespeare's Cave', where he sat, so the story goes, to write his fantasy of fairies, star-crossed lovers and 'rude mechanicals'. The cave is one of many in the area explored by cavers.
In the sixteenth century, the gorge was wild and largely unspoilt, though evidence has been found that it was the site of the earliest iron workings in the world. Later, the Industrial Revolution was to bring more extensive exploitation of the natural resources lying hidden beneath the gorge, as can be seen from the 1880 Ordnance Survey map.
We shall probably never really know whether Shakespeare visited Trebarried and Clydach, or where he wrote 'A Midsummer Night's Dream', but it does no harm for us to indulge in a little fantasy, and there is the compelling evidence of the name of that cave...
Information provided by Powys County Archives.
your comments
George Wood from Chatham This was very good and very helpful. I will recomend this to a few more people Fri Nov 24 15:42:06 2006
http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/mid/sites/bookshelf/pages/shakespeare.shtml
. . .
(quote)
We found 246 results for photos matching Clydach.
http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=clydach&page=2
. . .
We found 58 results for photos matching Clydach and Gorge.
http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=clydach+gorge&m=text
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Shakespeare in Wales
There will be posts on the following topics...
* A summing up
* First thoughts on the Powys ideas
* Old Gwernyfed Manor House
* Rhydspence at Whitney
* Shakespeare's Cave
* Trebarried in Wales
* Vaughan of Golden Grove
* Vaughan Whitney marriage
* Williams of Gwernyfed
Shakespeare's Welsh cave ... and more ...
It is a little known story
that Shakespeare lived for a while in Wales ...
there are three locations, all close to each other,
and all keeping the story of his visit.
This blog will tell their story.
that Shakespeare lived for a while in Wales ...
there are three locations, all close to each other,
and all keeping the story of his visit.
This blog will tell their story.
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