Sunday 19 February 2012
I am trying to do something about the pictures
what on earth has gone wrong with them! -
I may start a no-pictures blog for now -
will give link here at this blog if so
Friday 25 June 2010
Why is Powys (Powis) Castle in the story?
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photo taken by Alexander Forst-Rakoczy
This file is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 2.0 Austria license
photo taken by Alexander Forst-Rakoczy
This file is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 2.0 Austria license
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The Herbert family lived there, in those days,
and they are linked by marriage to the other families in the story -
the Parrys, Vaughans, Whitneys and Williams.
The Herberts also have a close link to Shakespeare -
two of them are in the First Folio dedication as the "incomparable brothers".
There is also a link to Kit Marlowe - the Lord Pembroke's Men acting company
(the Lord
Pembroke of the day is of the Herbert family) acted Marlowe plays.
and they are linked by marriage to the other families in the story -
the Parrys, Vaughans, Whitneys and Williams.
The Herberts also have a close link to Shakespeare -
two of them are in the First Folio dedication as the "incomparable brothers".
There is also a link to Kit Marlowe - the Lord Pembroke's Men acting company
(the Lord
Pembroke of the day is of the Herbert family) acted Marlowe plays.
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Note - the "incomparable brothers" of the First Folio
are the nephews of the Lord Herbert of Powys Castle.
The Lord Pembroke of the acting company is the brother of the Lord Herbert of Powys Castle.
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Powys (Powis) Castle
photo taken by Alexander Forst-Rakoczy*******************
Powis Castle, originally built c. 1200 as a fortress of the Welsh Princes of Powys.
The castle sits on a rock above terraces with beautiful flowers and plants and overlooks a large garden that includes a lake, an orangery and an aviary.
Powis Castle, originariamente costruito attorno al 1200 come fortezza del principe gallese di Powys. Il castello รจ collocato su una rocca sopra a terrazze con vei fiori e piante e sovrasta un grande giardino comprendente un lago, un agrumento e una voliera.
photo taken by Alexander Forst-Rakoczy
This file is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 2.0 Austria license.
Tuesday 18 May 2010
Labels, search, etc.
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One or two additions to the blog -
labels (also known as tags)
are now added,
(- a list of labels/tags
is on the right hand side of the blog page-)
this will only be some of the labels, at first,
as they are to be added to the posts
that are already written...
this will take a little time.
a search box (now on the right hand side of the blog page)
may be of use for searching through the posts.
(especially the posts not yet given all or any labels!)
Page added to blog
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I am adding a page to this blog,
from time to time.
(The pages are not blog posts.)
One has a picture of the
Rhydspence Inn,
near Whitney on Wye.
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It is found at
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The pages may be found (as links to the URLs) at the right hand side of the blog posts.
Monday 31 March 2008
Is Clydach the same as Aberclydach? - it seems so...
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Clydach Vale. Its old name was Cwm Pwca (Puck's valley);
local legend has it that Shakespeare knew a family in
Aberclydach,
and wrote 'A Midsummer Night's Dream' here.
An extract from from"Around Alton Photographic Memories".
http://mylocalgifts.com/search/wales/gwent/clydach/
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There is an old communion table dated 1624, while the altar was
reputed to have been taken from the cellar of Aberclydach House and is
the older.
http://www.cwmtillery.com/museum/newsletter_february07.htm
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The village of Clydach itself developed in the Lower Rhyndwyclydach
> section
> around the area of Aberclydach farm and was originally called
> Aberclydach.
http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/GLAMORGAN/2006-05/1148804023
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Under this window is an old communion table dated 1624. The present
alter is reputed to have been taken out of the cellar of the
Aberclydach House. It is the older of the two, and a magnificent
specimen of Elizabethan work.
History & Description of
Llanelly Parish Church,
Breconshire, Wales
http://thomasgenweb.com/llanelly_church.html
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Thursday 27 March 2008
The Whitneys of Whitney - 3
3.
Turstin, or Thurstan, the Fleming
Also known as Turstin de Wigmore, maybe also as Turstin, son of Rolf, and Turstin "the White".
A follower of William the Conqueror. In the Domesday book, an extensive land-holder in Herefordshire and the Marches of Wales.
Married Agnes, daughter of Alured de Merleberge (Alfred of Marlborough), a Norman baron of Ewias/Ewyas Castle, in the Marches of Wales.
Children:
Eustace, son of Turstin
(quote)
Whitneys of Whitney
Origin
The Whitney family originated with a man named Turstin who came to England with William the Conqueror in 1066 and who probably fought in the Battle of Hastings. He was called 'Turstin Flandrensis' (Turstin of Flanders, Turstin the Fleming) probably because he came from the area known as Flanders.
At some point he was given land near Wigmore Castle and was thereafter known as 'Turstin de Wigemore'. Turstin and his wife Agnes had a son Eustace, and Eustace inherited the manor of Pencombe from his mother. Note that the nearby region called Whitney was still at this time ungranted wild land.
Sometime in the several unknown generations between Eustace of Pencombe and his descendant Robert de Whitney, probably about 1190, a man was granted the region called Whitney and a castle was built. The family then became known as 'de Whitney' (of Whitney), and the Whitney surname was born.[1]
* Turstin (s1045-a1086) "the Fleming", "de Wigemore", of Wigmore and Pencombe, m. Agnes, daughter of Alfred of Marlborough (s1020-?)
* Eustace (s1075-a1100) of Pencombe
* four to six generations, names have not survived.[2] Due to the fact that later Whitney coats of arms contain a cross, it is thought probable that members in these generations may have participated in the 1st Crusade (1095-99), the 2nd Crusade (1145-48), or the 3rd Crusade (1189-1192).
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"There is a pedigree of the early Lords of Whitney, tracing their descent for five or six generations through a line of Welshmen with unpronounceable names, one of whom, Sir Piedge Exrog, was a 'Knight of ye Round Table.
To King Arthyrs time he lived att his Castle at Coedmore in Cardiganshire.'
This is to be found in a manuscript book of pedigrees called
The Golden Grove,
belonging to the Earl of Cawdor and now (1875) in the custody of the Public Record office, Chancery Lane. It was compiled, about 1703, by Owen Thomas, Deputy Assistant to Garter King-at-Arms, from papers and correspondence furnished by living representatives. This pedigree is obviously mythical for many generations." Henry Austin Whitney
http://wiki.whitneygen.org/wrg/index.php/
Whitneys_of_Whitney
Turstin, or Thurstan, the Fleming
Also known as Turstin de Wigmore, maybe also as Turstin, son of Rolf, and Turstin "the White".
A follower of William the Conqueror. In the Domesday book, an extensive land-holder in Herefordshire and the Marches of Wales.
Married Agnes, daughter of Alured de Merleberge (Alfred of Marlborough), a Norman baron of Ewias/Ewyas Castle, in the Marches of Wales.
Children:
Eustace, son of Turstin
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Whitneys of Whitney
Origin
The Whitney family originated with a man named Turstin who came to England with William the Conqueror in 1066 and who probably fought in the Battle of Hastings. He was called 'Turstin Flandrensis' (Turstin of Flanders, Turstin the Fleming) probably because he came from the area known as Flanders.
At some point he was given land near Wigmore Castle and was thereafter known as 'Turstin de Wigemore'. Turstin and his wife Agnes had a son Eustace, and Eustace inherited the manor of Pencombe from his mother. Note that the nearby region called Whitney was still at this time ungranted wild land.
Sometime in the several unknown generations between Eustace of Pencombe and his descendant Robert de Whitney, probably about 1190, a man was granted the region called Whitney and a castle was built. The family then became known as 'de Whitney' (of Whitney), and the Whitney surname was born.[1]
* Turstin (s1045-a1086) "the Fleming", "de Wigemore", of Wigmore and Pencombe, m. Agnes, daughter of Alfred of Marlborough (s1020-?)
* Eustace (s1075-a1100) of Pencombe
* four to six generations, names have not survived.[2] Due to the fact that later Whitney coats of arms contain a cross, it is thought probable that members in these generations may have participated in the 1st Crusade (1095-99), the 2nd Crusade (1145-48), or the 3rd Crusade (1189-1192).
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"There is a pedigree of the early Lords of Whitney, tracing their descent for five or six generations through a line of Welshmen with unpronounceable names, one of whom, Sir Piedge Exrog, was a 'Knight of ye Round Table.
To King Arthyrs time he lived att his Castle at Coedmore in Cardiganshire.'
This is to be found in a manuscript book of pedigrees called
The Golden Grove,
belonging to the Earl of Cawdor and now (1875) in the custody of the Public Record office, Chancery Lane. It was compiled, about 1703, by Owen Thomas, Deputy Assistant to Garter King-at-Arms, from papers and correspondence furnished by living representatives. This pedigree is obviously mythical for many generations." Henry Austin Whitney
http://wiki.whitneygen.org/wrg/index.php/
Whitneys_of_Whitney
The Whitneys of Whitney - 2
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Whitney Castle, Whitney on Wye.
SMR NO. 1192 GRID REF: SO 2725 4654
Whitney on Wye is on the North bank of the River Wye close to the Radnorshire border. The site is just to the south of Old Whitney Court and on the west side of the River Wye.
Description of the site today.
There is no trace of a castle at this site now but tradition says that beneath the river which dramatically changed its course in 1730, are still to e seen masses of masonry which may have belonged to the castle.
In 1675 although there was no trace of a castle tower some residents are said to have recollection of a building at this site. (Blount MS)
It was apparently a motte and bailey castle, formerly on a spit of gravel on a bend in the River Wye.
In 1976 Several lumps of mortared masonry and lots of stone with mortar attached were seen in the river, up to ¾ of a mile from the site.
History
Although it is not possible to trace the history of the castle we can trace some of the history of the family who took their name from this place. The Whitney family can trace their descent from Turstin the Fleming who held both Pencomb and Whitney.
1283: Eustachius de Whitney had a grant of free warren in Whitney and in 1306 was knighted under King Edward I. The family is also said to have taken part in The Crusades (the Holy Wars fought over Jerusalem -they began in 1096 and continued well into the 13th century).
1377: Robert Whitney was Sheriff of Herefordhsire and was also Knight of the Shire, as were several of his relatives.
1640's: At the time of the English Civil War Sir Robert Whitney was head of the family, and a devoted Royalist who gave much of his estate to support the King. By his death in 1653 the lands in Pencombe had been sold and his on;y son had produced no male heir and so the name became extinct and the property was divided between the daughters.
It later passed to the Rodd's of Foxley and then to William Wardour M.P. and Colonel Tomkyns Wardour who were related to the families of Monnington and Garnstone.
On Taylor's map of 1754 it is marked as 'castle demolished'
http://www.smr.herefordshire.gov.uk/castles/
castlesdata_az/whitney.htm
Whitney Castle, Whitney on Wye.
SMR NO. 1192 GRID REF: SO 2725 4654
Whitney on Wye is on the North bank of the River Wye close to the Radnorshire border. The site is just to the south of Old Whitney Court and on the west side of the River Wye.
Description of the site today.
There is no trace of a castle at this site now but tradition says that beneath the river which dramatically changed its course in 1730, are still to e seen masses of masonry which may have belonged to the castle.
In 1675 although there was no trace of a castle tower some residents are said to have recollection of a building at this site. (Blount MS)
It was apparently a motte and bailey castle, formerly on a spit of gravel on a bend in the River Wye.
In 1976 Several lumps of mortared masonry and lots of stone with mortar attached were seen in the river, up to ¾ of a mile from the site.
History
Although it is not possible to trace the history of the castle we can trace some of the history of the family who took their name from this place. The Whitney family can trace their descent from Turstin the Fleming who held both Pencomb and Whitney.
1283: Eustachius de Whitney had a grant of free warren in Whitney and in 1306 was knighted under King Edward I. The family is also said to have taken part in The Crusades (the Holy Wars fought over Jerusalem -they began in 1096 and continued well into the 13th century).
1377: Robert Whitney was Sheriff of Herefordhsire and was also Knight of the Shire, as were several of his relatives.
1640's: At the time of the English Civil War Sir Robert Whitney was head of the family, and a devoted Royalist who gave much of his estate to support the King. By his death in 1653 the lands in Pencombe had been sold and his on;y son had produced no male heir and so the name became extinct and the property was divided between the daughters.
It later passed to the Rodd's of Foxley and then to William Wardour M.P. and Colonel Tomkyns Wardour who were related to the families of Monnington and Garnstone.
On Taylor's map of 1754 it is marked as 'castle demolished'
http://www.smr.herefordshire.gov.uk/castles/
castlesdata_az/whitney.htm
The Whitneys of Whitney
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The term "March" is derived from the Anglo-Saxon "mearc," which means "boundary." However, the Marches are much more than a mere boundary between two lands. Although a few Normans had settled in the region prior to the conquest, building castles at such places as Ewyas Harold, Richard's Castle and Hereford, it was only after 1066 that William the Conqueror sought to formally subdue the borderlands.
The Welsh in particular did not gracefully submit to Norman control and resisted for well over 100 years. In order to quell the Welsh uprisings, King William created the Marcher Lordships, granting virtual independence and what amounted to petty kingdoms to over 150 of his most valued supporters.
The territories were collectively known as the Welsh Marches (Marchia Wallia), while the native Welsh lands to the west were considered Wales Proper (pura Wallia).
Marcher lords ruled their lands as they saw fit, unlike their counterparts in England who were directly accountable to the king. Marcher lords could build castles, administer laws, wage wars, establish towns, and "possessed all of the royal perquisites - salvage, treasure-trove, plunder and royal fish (Rowley)". People living in the Marches were subject to "the customs of the March," while those in pura Wallia still adhered to "the laws of Hywel Dda" (indigenous Welsh law).
http://www.castlewales.com/march.html
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