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Thursday, 6 March 2008

Williams of Gwernyfed



Williams of Gwernyfed

The families that owned Old Gwernyfed Manor House, at the time -

and is "Givernevett"
Gwernyfed?

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(1) The name is first linked with Gwernyfed in the person of Sir DAVID WILLIAMS (1536?-1613), judge,

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In 1600 he bought the Gwernyfed estate from John Gunter, the last of the old proprietors; and he also had other estates (and tithes) in Brecknock and other border counties.

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WILLIAMS families, of Gwernyfed, in the parish of Glasbury , Brecknock ; there were two Williams families at that place:

(1) The name is first linked with Gwernyfed in the person of Sir DAVID WILLIAMS (1536?-1613), judge, the youngest son of Gwilym ap John Vychan, of Blaen Newydd (=Blaen Nedd?), Ystradfellte, who was the cousin of Sir John Price of Brecon (q.v.). David Williams was called to the Bar from the Middle Temple in 1576. His career, which is given in the D.N.B., was a highly successful one.

He became attorney-general for five of the South Wales counties in the Great Sessions (1581-5), recorder of Brecon (1587-1604) and of Carmarthen, Member of Parliament for Brecon (1584-93 and 1597-1604); he was appointed a sergeant-at-law in 1593, knighted by James I, and raised to the King's Bench. He d. 22 Jan. 1612/13, and was buried in the Priory church at Brecon (see his epitaph in Theophilus Jones, 3rd ed., ii, 68).

In 1600 he bought the Gwernyfed estate from John Gunter, the last of the old proprietors; and he also had other estates (and tithes) in Brecknock and other border counties.

http://yba.llgc.org.uk/en/s-WILL-GWE-1536.html

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Gwernyfed or Givernevett?

The first daughter of the Whitney and Vaughan marriage, in an earlier post, married a Williams of Gwernyfed.

This links the locations of Trebarried (Shakespeare's Cave) and Gwernyfed (Shakespeare inscription on the Minstrel's Screen) in a close family link.

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EUSTACE WHITNEY, second son of Sir Robert, succeeded Sir James in 1587, and held the estate twenty-one years. He married, somewhat late in life and after thus becoming head of the family,

Margaret, daughter and coheir of William Vaughan of Glasbury.

The births of all their children, except the eldest, are recorded in the Parish Register of Whitney. They were:

1. Eleanor, who married Sir Henry Williams, Knight, of Givernevett, Brecknockshire.

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Children of Eustace and Margaret (Vaughan) Whitney:

i. Eleanor Whitney, b. say 1589, Whitney, Herefordshire;[9] m. Sir Henry Williams, Knight, of

Givernevett, Brecknockshire.

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Givernevett

is

GWERNYFED

* see the following -

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The information that I have is a bit confusing - we have family trees from the Gwernyfed family (some of them spell it Gwernyvet - I imagine that was a mistake) but they can be rather hard to follow.

Kind regards, Camilla

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AS for the spelling of Gwernyfed, your alternative spelling is merely an attempt to anglicise the word, which was a common practice in the past, especially amongst the gentry and at times when the Welsh language was seen as a disadvantage to social status.

Gwernyfed is also quite close to the English border, being only a few miles from Hay on Wye.

Cheers for now, Hilary

http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/POWYS/2006-07/1153056566

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First thoughts on the BBC ideas from Powys




First thoughts on the BBC ideas from Powys -

i. Parry

Blanche Parry is the queen's nurse and confidante

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Her aunt married a Whitney and also a Herbert

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In her will she left bequests to the Whitney family,

including to Eleanor Bull (nee Whitney).

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ii. Vaughan

The Vaughans are linked by marriage to the Herberts

(the "incomparable brothers" of the First Folio, also of the Lord Pembroke's Men actors, and Lords of Wilton House, and Powys Castle)

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iii. The Vaughans also linked by marriage to the Whitneys

(Eleanor Bull, Catherine Carey - Queen's great friend and (Admiral) Lord Howard's wife, and Blanche Parry close family link)

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and one (Vaughan) is the author of Golden Grove and seems to know more than you'd think about the Deptford happenings - Eleanor Bull, Kit Marlowe, etc.)

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Margaret, are you grieving
Over Goldengrove unleaving?
Leaves, like the things of man, you
With your fresh thoughts care for, can you?

(excerpt of poem, Gerard Manley Hopkins)

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Millar Maclure prints the relevant passage from Vaughan's The Golden Grove (1600) in

Marlowe: the Critical Heritage 1588-1896 (London, 1979), pp. 46-47.

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On the Parrys and the Vaughans, see Mary Delorme,

"A Watery Paradise: Rowland Vaughan and Hereford's 'Golden Vale'," History Today, 39 (July, 1989), 38-43.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/muchado/fine/killing.html