Monday, 31 March 2008
Is Clydach the same as Aberclydach? - it seems so...
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(quote, excerpts)
Clydach Vale. Its old name was Cwm Pwca (Puck's valley);
local legend has it that Shakespeare knew a family in
Aberclydach,
and wrote 'A Midsummer Night's Dream' here.
An extract from from"Around Alton Photographic Memories".
http://mylocalgifts.com/search/wales/gwent/clydach/
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There is an old communion table dated 1624, while the altar was
reputed to have been taken from the cellar of Aberclydach House and is
the older.
http://www.cwmtillery.com/museum/newsletter_february07.htm
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The village of Clydach itself developed in the Lower Rhyndwyclydach
> section
> around the area of Aberclydach farm and was originally called
> Aberclydach.
http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/GLAMORGAN/2006-05/1148804023
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Under this window is an old communion table dated 1624. The present
alter is reputed to have been taken out of the cellar of the
Aberclydach House. It is the older of the two, and a magnificent
specimen of Elizabethan work.
History & Description of
Llanelly Parish Church,
Breconshire, Wales
http://thomasgenweb.com/llanelly_church.html
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Thursday, 27 March 2008
The Whitneys of Whitney - 3
3.
Turstin, or Thurstan, the Fleming
Also known as Turstin de Wigmore, maybe also as Turstin, son of Rolf, and Turstin "the White".
A follower of William the Conqueror. In the Domesday book, an extensive land-holder in Herefordshire and the Marches of Wales.
Married Agnes, daughter of Alured de Merleberge (Alfred of Marlborough), a Norman baron of Ewias/Ewyas Castle, in the Marches of Wales.
Children:
Eustace, son of Turstin
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Whitneys of Whitney
Origin
The Whitney family originated with a man named Turstin who came to England with William the Conqueror in 1066 and who probably fought in the Battle of Hastings. He was called 'Turstin Flandrensis' (Turstin of Flanders, Turstin the Fleming) probably because he came from the area known as Flanders.
At some point he was given land near Wigmore Castle and was thereafter known as 'Turstin de Wigemore'. Turstin and his wife Agnes had a son Eustace, and Eustace inherited the manor of Pencombe from his mother. Note that the nearby region called Whitney was still at this time ungranted wild land.
Sometime in the several unknown generations between Eustace of Pencombe and his descendant Robert de Whitney, probably about 1190, a man was granted the region called Whitney and a castle was built. The family then became known as 'de Whitney' (of Whitney), and the Whitney surname was born.[1]
* Turstin (s1045-a1086) "the Fleming", "de Wigemore", of Wigmore and Pencombe, m. Agnes, daughter of Alfred of Marlborough (s1020-?)
* Eustace (s1075-a1100) of Pencombe
* four to six generations, names have not survived.[2] Due to the fact that later Whitney coats of arms contain a cross, it is thought probable that members in these generations may have participated in the 1st Crusade (1095-99), the 2nd Crusade (1145-48), or the 3rd Crusade (1189-1192).
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"There is a pedigree of the early Lords of Whitney, tracing their descent for five or six generations through a line of Welshmen with unpronounceable names, one of whom, Sir Piedge Exrog, was a 'Knight of ye Round Table.
To King Arthyrs time he lived att his Castle at Coedmore in Cardiganshire.'
This is to be found in a manuscript book of pedigrees called
The Golden Grove,
belonging to the Earl of Cawdor and now (1875) in the custody of the Public Record office, Chancery Lane. It was compiled, about 1703, by Owen Thomas, Deputy Assistant to Garter King-at-Arms, from papers and correspondence furnished by living representatives. This pedigree is obviously mythical for many generations." Henry Austin Whitney
http://wiki.whitneygen.org/wrg/index.php/
Whitneys_of_Whitney
Turstin, or Thurstan, the Fleming
Also known as Turstin de Wigmore, maybe also as Turstin, son of Rolf, and Turstin "the White".
A follower of William the Conqueror. In the Domesday book, an extensive land-holder in Herefordshire and the Marches of Wales.
Married Agnes, daughter of Alured de Merleberge (Alfred of Marlborough), a Norman baron of Ewias/Ewyas Castle, in the Marches of Wales.
Children:
Eustace, son of Turstin
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Whitneys of Whitney
Origin
The Whitney family originated with a man named Turstin who came to England with William the Conqueror in 1066 and who probably fought in the Battle of Hastings. He was called 'Turstin Flandrensis' (Turstin of Flanders, Turstin the Fleming) probably because he came from the area known as Flanders.
At some point he was given land near Wigmore Castle and was thereafter known as 'Turstin de Wigemore'. Turstin and his wife Agnes had a son Eustace, and Eustace inherited the manor of Pencombe from his mother. Note that the nearby region called Whitney was still at this time ungranted wild land.
Sometime in the several unknown generations between Eustace of Pencombe and his descendant Robert de Whitney, probably about 1190, a man was granted the region called Whitney and a castle was built. The family then became known as 'de Whitney' (of Whitney), and the Whitney surname was born.[1]
* Turstin (s1045-a1086) "the Fleming", "de Wigemore", of Wigmore and Pencombe, m. Agnes, daughter of Alfred of Marlborough (s1020-?)
* Eustace (s1075-a1100) of Pencombe
* four to six generations, names have not survived.[2] Due to the fact that later Whitney coats of arms contain a cross, it is thought probable that members in these generations may have participated in the 1st Crusade (1095-99), the 2nd Crusade (1145-48), or the 3rd Crusade (1189-1192).
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"There is a pedigree of the early Lords of Whitney, tracing their descent for five or six generations through a line of Welshmen with unpronounceable names, one of whom, Sir Piedge Exrog, was a 'Knight of ye Round Table.
To King Arthyrs time he lived att his Castle at Coedmore in Cardiganshire.'
This is to be found in a manuscript book of pedigrees called
The Golden Grove,
belonging to the Earl of Cawdor and now (1875) in the custody of the Public Record office, Chancery Lane. It was compiled, about 1703, by Owen Thomas, Deputy Assistant to Garter King-at-Arms, from papers and correspondence furnished by living representatives. This pedigree is obviously mythical for many generations." Henry Austin Whitney
http://wiki.whitneygen.org/wrg/index.php/
Whitneys_of_Whitney
The Whitneys of Whitney - 2
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Whitney Castle, Whitney on Wye.
SMR NO. 1192 GRID REF: SO 2725 4654
Whitney on Wye is on the North bank of the River Wye close to the Radnorshire border. The site is just to the south of Old Whitney Court and on the west side of the River Wye.
Description of the site today.
There is no trace of a castle at this site now but tradition says that beneath the river which dramatically changed its course in 1730, are still to e seen masses of masonry which may have belonged to the castle.
In 1675 although there was no trace of a castle tower some residents are said to have recollection of a building at this site. (Blount MS)
It was apparently a motte and bailey castle, formerly on a spit of gravel on a bend in the River Wye.
In 1976 Several lumps of mortared masonry and lots of stone with mortar attached were seen in the river, up to ¾ of a mile from the site.
History
Although it is not possible to trace the history of the castle we can trace some of the history of the family who took their name from this place. The Whitney family can trace their descent from Turstin the Fleming who held both Pencomb and Whitney.
1283: Eustachius de Whitney had a grant of free warren in Whitney and in 1306 was knighted under King Edward I. The family is also said to have taken part in The Crusades (the Holy Wars fought over Jerusalem -they began in 1096 and continued well into the 13th century).
1377: Robert Whitney was Sheriff of Herefordhsire and was also Knight of the Shire, as were several of his relatives.
1640's: At the time of the English Civil War Sir Robert Whitney was head of the family, and a devoted Royalist who gave much of his estate to support the King. By his death in 1653 the lands in Pencombe had been sold and his on;y son had produced no male heir and so the name became extinct and the property was divided between the daughters.
It later passed to the Rodd's of Foxley and then to William Wardour M.P. and Colonel Tomkyns Wardour who were related to the families of Monnington and Garnstone.
On Taylor's map of 1754 it is marked as 'castle demolished'
http://www.smr.herefordshire.gov.uk/castles/
castlesdata_az/whitney.htm
Whitney Castle, Whitney on Wye.
SMR NO. 1192 GRID REF: SO 2725 4654
Whitney on Wye is on the North bank of the River Wye close to the Radnorshire border. The site is just to the south of Old Whitney Court and on the west side of the River Wye.
Description of the site today.
There is no trace of a castle at this site now but tradition says that beneath the river which dramatically changed its course in 1730, are still to e seen masses of masonry which may have belonged to the castle.
In 1675 although there was no trace of a castle tower some residents are said to have recollection of a building at this site. (Blount MS)
It was apparently a motte and bailey castle, formerly on a spit of gravel on a bend in the River Wye.
In 1976 Several lumps of mortared masonry and lots of stone with mortar attached were seen in the river, up to ¾ of a mile from the site.
History
Although it is not possible to trace the history of the castle we can trace some of the history of the family who took their name from this place. The Whitney family can trace their descent from Turstin the Fleming who held both Pencomb and Whitney.
1283: Eustachius de Whitney had a grant of free warren in Whitney and in 1306 was knighted under King Edward I. The family is also said to have taken part in The Crusades (the Holy Wars fought over Jerusalem -they began in 1096 and continued well into the 13th century).
1377: Robert Whitney was Sheriff of Herefordhsire and was also Knight of the Shire, as were several of his relatives.
1640's: At the time of the English Civil War Sir Robert Whitney was head of the family, and a devoted Royalist who gave much of his estate to support the King. By his death in 1653 the lands in Pencombe had been sold and his on;y son had produced no male heir and so the name became extinct and the property was divided between the daughters.
It later passed to the Rodd's of Foxley and then to William Wardour M.P. and Colonel Tomkyns Wardour who were related to the families of Monnington and Garnstone.
On Taylor's map of 1754 it is marked as 'castle demolished'
http://www.smr.herefordshire.gov.uk/castles/
castlesdata_az/whitney.htm
The Whitneys of Whitney
1.
The term "March" is derived from the Anglo-Saxon "mearc," which means "boundary." However, the Marches are much more than a mere boundary between two lands. Although a few Normans had settled in the region prior to the conquest, building castles at such places as Ewyas Harold, Richard's Castle and Hereford, it was only after 1066 that William the Conqueror sought to formally subdue the borderlands.
The Welsh in particular did not gracefully submit to Norman control and resisted for well over 100 years. In order to quell the Welsh uprisings, King William created the Marcher Lordships, granting virtual independence and what amounted to petty kingdoms to over 150 of his most valued supporters.
The territories were collectively known as the Welsh Marches (Marchia Wallia), while the native Welsh lands to the west were considered Wales Proper (pura Wallia).
Marcher lords ruled their lands as they saw fit, unlike their counterparts in England who were directly accountable to the king. Marcher lords could build castles, administer laws, wage wars, establish towns, and "possessed all of the royal perquisites - salvage, treasure-trove, plunder and royal fish (Rowley)". People living in the Marches were subject to "the customs of the March," while those in pura Wallia still adhered to "the laws of Hywel Dda" (indigenous Welsh law).
http://www.castlewales.com/march.html
Sunday, 16 March 2008
Latest discoveries ... 6
Golden Grove, Wales
pictures at
http://images.google.co.uk/images?as_q=wales&gbv=1
&hl=en&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=golden+grove
&as_oq=&as_eq=ship+sydney&imgtype=&imgsz=
&as_filetype=&imgc=&as_sitesearch=&safe=
images&as_st=y
pictures at
http://images.google.co.uk/images?as_q=wales&gbv=1
&hl=en&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=golden+grove
&as_oq=&as_eq=ship+sydney&imgtype=&imgsz=
&as_filetype=&imgc=&as_sitesearch=&safe=
images&as_st=y
Latest discoveries ... 5
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Tretower
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We found 242 results for photos matching Tretower.
http://www.flickr.com/search/?page=10&q=tretower&z=t
Google Image Search for Tretower
http://images.google.co.uk/images?hl=en&q=Tretower
&btnG=Search+Images&gbv=1
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Tretower Court
Tretower Castle was first established by a Norman knight of the Picard family who assisted Bernard de Neufmarche in his conquest of Brycheiniog. The manor continued to be held by the Picard family for many generations, during which time the original timber castle was upgraded. It then passed through several hands, being damaged by Owain Glyndwr whilst garrisoned against him by Sir James Berkeley. By this time the main dwelling was at the Court built nearby, and the castle fell into disrepair.
The Vaughan family held the Court from the late fifteenth century and developed it as a fortified manor house. By the time the Vaughans sold it to the Parry family in 1783 the great days of the ancient mansion were behind it and it had evolved into a substantial farm.
http://history.powys.org.uk/history/crick/tretwr.html
Tretower Court
Tretower Court - The courtyard seen from the Gatehouse Standing against the splendid backdrop of the Black Mountains, this remarkable medieval country house is one of the rare and glorious survivals that Wales has to offer. When Roger Picard arrived in the valley at the end of the 11th century with the Norman invaders, he built a simple motte and bailey castle at Tretower, which the next six generations of the family enlarged and strengthened. By the early 14th century more comfortable domestic accommodation was required, so the building of Tretower Court began and was continued over the next 350 years. With an architectural history almost as complex as the family succession, this charming fortified manor house offers the visitor an evocative glimpse of the lifestyle enjoyed by the more affluent members of society during the Middle Ages.
Among the early owners of Tretower Court are listed Lord Berkeley and the Earl of Pembroke, but probably the most noted link with the house is that of Henry Vaughan, the 'Silurist'. Henry was a nephew to the owner of Tretower and never actually lived at the house, but history records that he had an intimate association with the property, inspired by the tranquillity of its surrounding environment. As a great poet and distinguished writer, whose works are highly acclaimed among the literature of 17th century England, Henry's love of the gentle Usk valley and the hauntingly beautiful Black Mountains was captured for eternity by his words.
Up until 1783 Tretower Court was owned by descendants of Picard, although the family name changed several times as a result of the circumstances of inheritance.
By the middle of the 15th century the family name of Vaughan was firmly established, and it was Sir Roger Vaughan, an extremely wealthy commoner, who really made his mark on the new building, doubling the size and embellishing it with quality dressed stonework and ornate woodwork.
Additions and alterations were subsequently made, especially after it passed out of the family in the late 18th century to become a farm, but the core of the house remains essentially 14th/15th century in origin. Developed to form an irregular four-sided, two-storey building with a central courtyard, the house looks intriguingly different from every angle. There is a first floor timber gallery running the length of one range, there are battlemented wall walks along a further two ranges, and there is a most amazing combination of various window styles and doorways throughout the entire building.
Even though Tretower Court is devoid of furniture, this in no way detracts from the wonderful atmosphere of the individual rooms and, if anything, serves only to enhance the medieval beauty of the building. With no priceless works of art to admire, the eyes are able to focus on some of the surviving details of skilled craftsmanship, and appreciate how much intensive labour this work must have taken with their simple set of medieval tools. In comparison to the cold comforts afforded by the old stone castle, the relative luxury of this once grand and imposing 'modern' house must have seemed strangely disconcerting at first for the Vaughan family.
http://www.theheritagetrail.co.uk/manor%20houses/tretower%20court.htm
Tretower
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We found 242 results for photos matching Tretower.
http://www.flickr.com/search/?page=10&q=tretower&z=t
Google Image Search for Tretower
http://images.google.co.uk/images?hl=en&q=Tretower
&btnG=Search+Images&gbv=1
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(quote, excerpts)
Tretower Court
Tretower Castle was first established by a Norman knight of the Picard family who assisted Bernard de Neufmarche in his conquest of Brycheiniog. The manor continued to be held by the Picard family for many generations, during which time the original timber castle was upgraded. It then passed through several hands, being damaged by Owain Glyndwr whilst garrisoned against him by Sir James Berkeley. By this time the main dwelling was at the Court built nearby, and the castle fell into disrepair.
The Vaughan family held the Court from the late fifteenth century and developed it as a fortified manor house. By the time the Vaughans sold it to the Parry family in 1783 the great days of the ancient mansion were behind it and it had evolved into a substantial farm.
http://history.powys.org.uk/history/crick/tretwr.html
Tretower Court
Tretower Court - The courtyard seen from the Gatehouse Standing against the splendid backdrop of the Black Mountains, this remarkable medieval country house is one of the rare and glorious survivals that Wales has to offer. When Roger Picard arrived in the valley at the end of the 11th century with the Norman invaders, he built a simple motte and bailey castle at Tretower, which the next six generations of the family enlarged and strengthened. By the early 14th century more comfortable domestic accommodation was required, so the building of Tretower Court began and was continued over the next 350 years. With an architectural history almost as complex as the family succession, this charming fortified manor house offers the visitor an evocative glimpse of the lifestyle enjoyed by the more affluent members of society during the Middle Ages.
Among the early owners of Tretower Court are listed Lord Berkeley and the Earl of Pembroke, but probably the most noted link with the house is that of Henry Vaughan, the 'Silurist'. Henry was a nephew to the owner of Tretower and never actually lived at the house, but history records that he had an intimate association with the property, inspired by the tranquillity of its surrounding environment. As a great poet and distinguished writer, whose works are highly acclaimed among the literature of 17th century England, Henry's love of the gentle Usk valley and the hauntingly beautiful Black Mountains was captured for eternity by his words.
Up until 1783 Tretower Court was owned by descendants of Picard, although the family name changed several times as a result of the circumstances of inheritance.
By the middle of the 15th century the family name of Vaughan was firmly established, and it was Sir Roger Vaughan, an extremely wealthy commoner, who really made his mark on the new building, doubling the size and embellishing it with quality dressed stonework and ornate woodwork.
Additions and alterations were subsequently made, especially after it passed out of the family in the late 18th century to become a farm, but the core of the house remains essentially 14th/15th century in origin. Developed to form an irregular four-sided, two-storey building with a central courtyard, the house looks intriguingly different from every angle. There is a first floor timber gallery running the length of one range, there are battlemented wall walks along a further two ranges, and there is a most amazing combination of various window styles and doorways throughout the entire building.
Even though Tretower Court is devoid of furniture, this in no way detracts from the wonderful atmosphere of the individual rooms and, if anything, serves only to enhance the medieval beauty of the building. With no priceless works of art to admire, the eyes are able to focus on some of the surviving details of skilled craftsmanship, and appreciate how much intensive labour this work must have taken with their simple set of medieval tools. In comparison to the cold comforts afforded by the old stone castle, the relative luxury of this once grand and imposing 'modern' house must have seemed strangely disconcerting at first for the Vaughan family.
http://www.theheritagetrail.co.uk/manor%20houses/tretower%20court.htm
Latest discoveries ... 4
10.
(quote)
Search
Search powys.gov.uk
Search results for Shakespeare
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PDF document R/X/83 - 100%
... , etc, entitled `Enwogion Sir Frycheiniog', nd [1960s?] /19 Typescript of `Shakespeare and his Connections with [1960s/70s?] Breconshire', nd /20 Photocopy ...
http://www.powys.gov.uk/uploads/media/R_X_131_to_193_bi.pdf - 11/10/2007
http://www.powys.gov.uk/index.php?id=21
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The link gives this -
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R/X/165/DD REV D R DAVIES PAPERS Acc 1542
/19 Typescript of ‘Shakespeare and his Connections with [1960s/70s?]
Breconshire’, nd
/20 Photocopy of a manuscript entitled ‘ Shakespeare and the Welsh’, delivered to the Newport Literary Society, 1916, nd [1960s/70s?]
/21 File marked ‘Shakespeare and Brecon’, includes: typescript and manuscript drafts of ‘Shakespeare and his connections with Brecon, nd
/22 File marked ‘Brittany and Maximus’, includes: manuscript notes re religion in Radnorshire, nd [1950s/60s?]; Typescript with manuscript notes entitled ‘The Early Years of Brittany’, nd [1960s?]; Typescript of a paper, ‘The Early Celtic Church, delivered [by Prof Hugh Williams?] to the Builth Clergy, 1951; typescript of a paper, ’The Breconshire Tradition’. [delivered by Iris Foster at Brecon Cathedral?], 1956; manuscript notes re early Welsh Christianity, nd [1950s?]; cutting re churches, 1952; typescript featuring biographies of famous Breconshire/Radnorshire men, nd [1960s?]; correspondence with various libraries, 1955-56, 1973; photocopy of an article on the early history of St John’s College, Oxford, nd [1950s?];
cuttings re Shakespeare, nd [1950s?];
typescript note re Thomas Jenkins of Stratford, nd [1950s?]; typescript of a paper, ‘The Radnorshire Tradition’, nd [1950s/60s?]; manuscript and photocopy of a paper, ‘The Revolt of Maximus’, nd [1950s?] [1950]-1973
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Trebarried House near Llandefalle, c. 1960
Trebarried House near Llandefalle, c. 1960
View larger image
This item comes from: Brecknock Museum & Art Gallery (Item reference: ACG/1/155). If you would like to see the original item, or require information regarding copyright, please contact the repository/contributor named above.
A photograph from the extensive 'Houses of Breconshire' collection held by Brecknock Museum & Art Gallery. A survey of significant houses in the county was initiated by the Education Committee in 1959 as a service to teachers. Houses large and small, and in rural and urban locations, were recorded in photographs and measured drawings. As many of the buildings were in poor condition at the time, the material provides a valuable architectural record of traditional houses, some of which have not survived or have been radically altered.
Trebarried House, a 17th century mansion near Llandefalle, was built for a member of the Vaughan family.
http://www.gtj.org.uk/en/item1/22280
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Aerial photograph of Trebarried House and earthworks, 2001
http://www.tlysau.org.uk/en/blowup1/12313
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Historic Landscape Characterisation
The Middle Wye Valley
The following description, taken from the Historic Landscapes Register, identifies the essential historic landscape themes in the historic character area.
http://www.cpat.org.uk/projects/longer/histland/midwye/midwye.htm
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http://www.powys.gov.uk/index.php?id=647
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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12.
I've found a blog referring to the Shakespeare story of Clydach,
here is an excerpt from the post...
(written only 4 days
before I discovered the same BBC page myself...)
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these anecdotes go back to at least to the 19th century, when it was
documented in a letter by the poet Campbell to Mrs. Fletcher that it
was thought that Shakespeare visited this village.
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About the Clydach, Gilwern and Llanelly Hill community
The canal at Gilwern
The Three Villages of Clydach, Gilwern and Llanelly Hill make up the
Llanelly parish ward of Monmouthshire County Council.
Situated four miles from the busy market town of Abergavenny this is
an area of outstanding natural beauty on the northernmost edge of the
Brecon Beacons National Park. Very close to the South Wales Valleys
The Clydach Gorge is an internationally renowned area of outstanding
natural beauty. The river Clydach meanders down the gorge, the banks
are lined with beech trees whilst beneath the earth there are miles of
caves. The Clydach Gorge is a haven for walkers and cavers.
Llanelly Hill perched on top of the escarpment is now largely a
dormitory village. There are spectacular views of the surrounding
countryside across the Beacons and the Black mountains for those that
visit this interesting village.
Clydach and William Shakespeare
Find out the links between William Shakespeare and Clydach in the new
article by Marit Meredith. Do you have any items about the history of
our area?
http://www.clydach-gilwern-llanellyhill.org.uk/
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Shakespeare and Clydach PDF Print E-mail
Clydach - and Shakespeare's Midsummer Night's Dream
The story goes that Shakespeare himself not only visited Clydach on
his travels, but that he also drew inspiration for Midsummer Night's
Dream from local myths and superstitions.
The great Bard is said to have stayed at Clydach House when he stayed
in the village- and was quoted as 'the stranger who came looking for
the house of many windows' (which it still has to this day).
What would have spurred him on to come looking for this place, we'll
never know, unless the legends of Cwm Pwca (Hobgoblins' Dingle - or
Valley of Puck) were known further a field, perhaps.
It has been suggested that his friend Richard Price, son of Sir John
Price, of the Priory, Brecon, was the person who first made
Shakespeare aware of the Cambrian fairies and that when visiting his
friend, he sojourned to 'the Valley of Fairy Puck' (The fairy Glen)-
which became the principal machinery for his Midsummer Night's Dream -
supposedly penned as he sat in what is now known as Shakespeare's
Cave, in a dingle just above Cwm Pwca.
Cwm Pwca was where waters from the river Clydach mingled with waters
from another stream - a place that filled people with dread, because
of the malicious powers of some evil spirits believed to be residing
there.
Cwm Pwca lies below Devil's Bridge (the bridge can be accessed by
walking down past the Drum and Monkey in Blackrock, on through the
subway under the Heads of the Valley Road, then continuing down
towards the river). It is apparently called Devil's Bridge because it
looks as though the face of the devil himself is hewn into the rock
below. The river runs through a narrow channel at this point and drops
straight down into a swirling pool below, which is called 'Pwll Cwn' -
or the Dog's Pool. This dark and cavernous pool forms the centre of
the valley called Cwm Pwca -
and was where
Shakespeare
is thought to have visited and got his inspiration, if not his
knowledge, of Puck, who he subsequently introduced into his Midsummer
Night's Dream.
So is the Pwca of Clydach and the 'shrewd knavish sprite that frights
the maidens of the villag'ry ... at every turn' one and the same? It
would certainly seem so...
http://www.clydach-gilwern-llanellyhill.org.uk/
index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=99
&Itemid=38
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(quote)
Search
Search powys.gov.uk
Search results for Shakespeare
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PDF document R/X/83 - 100%
... , etc, entitled `Enwogion Sir Frycheiniog', nd [1960s?] /19 Typescript of `Shakespeare and his Connections with [1960s/70s?] Breconshire', nd /20 Photocopy ...
http://www.powys.gov.uk/uploads/media/R_X_131_to_193_bi.pdf - 11/10/2007
http://www.powys.gov.uk/index.php?id=21
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The link gives this -
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R/X/165/DD REV D R DAVIES PAPERS Acc 1542
/19 Typescript of ‘Shakespeare and his Connections with [1960s/70s?]
Breconshire’, nd
/20 Photocopy of a manuscript entitled ‘ Shakespeare and the Welsh’, delivered to the Newport Literary Society, 1916, nd [1960s/70s?]
/21 File marked ‘Shakespeare and Brecon’, includes: typescript and manuscript drafts of ‘Shakespeare and his connections with Brecon, nd
/22 File marked ‘Brittany and Maximus’, includes: manuscript notes re religion in Radnorshire, nd [1950s/60s?]; Typescript with manuscript notes entitled ‘The Early Years of Brittany’, nd [1960s?]; Typescript of a paper, ‘The Early Celtic Church, delivered [by Prof Hugh Williams?] to the Builth Clergy, 1951; typescript of a paper, ’The Breconshire Tradition’. [delivered by Iris Foster at Brecon Cathedral?], 1956; manuscript notes re early Welsh Christianity, nd [1950s?]; cutting re churches, 1952; typescript featuring biographies of famous Breconshire/Radnorshire men, nd [1960s?]; correspondence with various libraries, 1955-56, 1973; photocopy of an article on the early history of St John’s College, Oxford, nd [1950s?];
cuttings re Shakespeare, nd [1950s?];
typescript note re Thomas Jenkins of Stratford, nd [1950s?]; typescript of a paper, ‘The Radnorshire Tradition’, nd [1950s/60s?]; manuscript and photocopy of a paper, ‘The Revolt of Maximus’, nd [1950s?] [1950]-1973
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11.
(quote)
Trebarried House near Llandefalle, c. 1960
Trebarried House near Llandefalle, c. 1960
View larger image
This item comes from: Brecknock Museum & Art Gallery (Item reference: ACG/1/155). If you would like to see the original item, or require information regarding copyright, please contact the repository/contributor named above.
A photograph from the extensive 'Houses of Breconshire' collection held by Brecknock Museum & Art Gallery. A survey of significant houses in the county was initiated by the Education Committee in 1959 as a service to teachers. Houses large and small, and in rural and urban locations, were recorded in photographs and measured drawings. As many of the buildings were in poor condition at the time, the material provides a valuable architectural record of traditional houses, some of which have not survived or have been radically altered.
Trebarried House, a 17th century mansion near Llandefalle, was built for a member of the Vaughan family.
http://www.gtj.org.uk/en/item1/22280
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Aerial photograph of Trebarried House and earthworks, 2001
http://www.tlysau.org.uk/en/blowup1/12313
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Historic Landscape Characterisation
The Middle Wye Valley
The following description, taken from the Historic Landscapes Register, identifies the essential historic landscape themes in the historic character area.
http://www.cpat.org.uk/projects/longer/histland/midwye/midwye.htm
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http://www.powys.gov.uk/index.php?id=647
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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12.
I've found a blog referring to the Shakespeare story of Clydach,
here is an excerpt from the post...
(written only 4 days
before I discovered the same BBC page myself...)
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(quote)
these anecdotes go back to at least to the 19th century, when it was
documented in a letter by the poet Campbell to Mrs. Fletcher that it
was thought that Shakespeare visited this village.
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(quote, excerpts)
About the Clydach, Gilwern and Llanelly Hill community
The canal at Gilwern
The Three Villages of Clydach, Gilwern and Llanelly Hill make up the
Llanelly parish ward of Monmouthshire County Council.
Situated four miles from the busy market town of Abergavenny this is
an area of outstanding natural beauty on the northernmost edge of the
Brecon Beacons National Park. Very close to the South Wales Valleys
The Clydach Gorge is an internationally renowned area of outstanding
natural beauty. The river Clydach meanders down the gorge, the banks
are lined with beech trees whilst beneath the earth there are miles of
caves. The Clydach Gorge is a haven for walkers and cavers.
Llanelly Hill perched on top of the escarpment is now largely a
dormitory village. There are spectacular views of the surrounding
countryside across the Beacons and the Black mountains for those that
visit this interesting village.
Clydach and William Shakespeare
Find out the links between William Shakespeare and Clydach in the new
article by Marit Meredith. Do you have any items about the history of
our area?
http://www.clydach-gilwern-llanellyhill.org.uk/
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Shakespeare and Clydach PDF Print E-mail
Clydach - and Shakespeare's Midsummer Night's Dream
The story goes that Shakespeare himself not only visited Clydach on
his travels, but that he also drew inspiration for Midsummer Night's
Dream from local myths and superstitions.
The great Bard is said to have stayed at Clydach House when he stayed
in the village- and was quoted as 'the stranger who came looking for
the house of many windows' (which it still has to this day).
What would have spurred him on to come looking for this place, we'll
never know, unless the legends of Cwm Pwca (Hobgoblins' Dingle - or
Valley of Puck) were known further a field, perhaps.
It has been suggested that his friend Richard Price, son of Sir John
Price, of the Priory, Brecon, was the person who first made
Shakespeare aware of the Cambrian fairies and that when visiting his
friend, he sojourned to 'the Valley of Fairy Puck' (The fairy Glen)-
which became the principal machinery for his Midsummer Night's Dream -
supposedly penned as he sat in what is now known as Shakespeare's
Cave, in a dingle just above Cwm Pwca.
Cwm Pwca was where waters from the river Clydach mingled with waters
from another stream - a place that filled people with dread, because
of the malicious powers of some evil spirits believed to be residing
there.
Cwm Pwca lies below Devil's Bridge (the bridge can be accessed by
walking down past the Drum and Monkey in Blackrock, on through the
subway under the Heads of the Valley Road, then continuing down
towards the river). It is apparently called Devil's Bridge because it
looks as though the face of the devil himself is hewn into the rock
below. The river runs through a narrow channel at this point and drops
straight down into a swirling pool below, which is called 'Pwll Cwn' -
or the Dog's Pool. This dark and cavernous pool forms the centre of
the valley called Cwm Pwca -
and was where
Shakespeare
is thought to have visited and got his inspiration, if not his
knowledge, of Puck, who he subsequently introduced into his Midsummer
Night's Dream.
So is the Pwca of Clydach and the 'shrewd knavish sprite that frights
the maidens of the villag'ry ... at every turn' one and the same? It
would certainly seem so...
http://www.clydach-gilwern-llanellyhill.org.uk/
index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=99
&Itemid=38
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Latest discoveries ... 3
7.
Maps of the area -
Map for
Gwernyfed, Powys
UK
The map shows Hay-on-Wye,
Whitney-on-Wye, and Rhydspence,
Glasbury,
and Bredwardine.
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http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode
=&q=gwernyfed&sll=51.805218,-4.367065&sspn
=0.194457,0.466919&ie=UTF8&ll=52.043622,
-3.177795&spn=0.193427,0.466919&z=11
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Map for Tretower Court and Castle
The map shows Abergavenny
and Clydach.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode
=&q=Tretower&sll=51.927754,-3.177795&sspn
=0.193928,0.466919&ie=UTF8&ll=51.886213,
-3.176122&spn=0.194107,0.466919&z=11
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Or visit http://maps.google.com
and search from there.
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Two new maps -
Map including both
Gwernyfed
and Tretower Court and Castle
(Gwernyfed is where the green arrow is - near Velindre)
(Tretower Court and Castle is to the south)
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode
=&q=gwernyfed&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn
=31.922255,59.765625&ie=UTF8&ll=51.975999,
-3.177795&spn=0.193719,0.466919&z=11
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Map including the same area, also including Cirencester, Chepstow, and Tewkesbury.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode
=&q=gwernyfed&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn
=31.922255,59.765625&ie=UTF8&ll=51.828988,
-2.617493&spn=0.777421,1.867676&z=9
&iwloc=addr
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A third new map.
Map showing same area, with
Stratford-on-Avon.
(down, from the north-east corner of the map)
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode
=&q=gwernyfed&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn
=31.922255,59.765625&ie=UTF8&ll=52.005174,
-2.617493&spn=0.774376,1.867676&z=9
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This shows that Stratford-on-Avon, and Tewkesbury, etc.,
are not all that far from the area in Wales
where the stories originated from.
i.e, either William Shakespeare of Stratford, or Francis Bacon,
may, in only a little time, visit the area.
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My own view is that Christopher Marlowe is the author
of Shakespeare -
this blog is not about the question of authorship,
however.
It is intended to give the stories of "Shakespeare's visit to Wales",
whoever Shakespeare may be.
(Kit Marlowe, who maybe did not die in 1593 at Deptford,
may have visited Wales, of course, at any time after this.)
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8.
(quote, excerpts)
The first of them recorded at Bredwardine is Watkin Vaughan,
who wrote a letter to
lord Burghley
from there, 17 Dec. 1584.
His wife was Joan, daughter of Miles ap Harry of Newcourt, in the Golden Valley,
and niece to
Blanch Parry (q.v.), queen Elizabeth's maid of honour.
They had two sons, Harry, heir to Moccas and Bredwardine, and Rowland, heir of Newcourt.
This Rowland was the author of the remarkable book entitled
Most approved and long experienced waterworkes, 1610,
which contains a long epistle to
William Herbert, earl of Pembroke.
His wife was Elizabeth, daughter of Rowland Vaughan of Porthaml. HARRY VAUGHAN'S wife was a grand-daughter of Hugh Lewis of Harpton. Their heir was ROGER VAUGHAN (matriculated at Oxford, 11 May 1604, aged 15), who rebuilt Bredwardine castle, 1639-40.
His son, HARRY VAUGHAN, m. Frances, daughter of Walter Pye, in 1635. After his death, she m. Edward Cornewall, of the Stapleton family, and it was his son who succeeded to Moccas, having purchased Bredwardine for himself.
http://yba.llgc.org.uk/en/s-VAUG-BRO-1350.html
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9.
Falstaff and Sir John Oldcastle - a link to the Whitney-on-Wye area
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On one of the maps of the area
(Gwernyfed and Tretower),
I saw the place-name
Oldcastle.
`````````
Thinking of
Sir John Oldcastle, I looked for him at Wikipedia,
and discovered this -
`````````
(quote, excerpts)
John Oldcastle
Sir John Oldcastle (d. December 14, 1417), English Lollard leader, was
son of Sir Richard Oldcastle of Almeley in northwest Herefordshire and
grandson of another Sir John Oldcastle.
He was prosecuted for heresy against the Church, and escaped from the
Tower of London, after which he allegedly plotted against his old
friend Henry V. He was captured and executed in London, after which he
became a martyr. He is presumed to be the basis of William
Shakespeare's character Falstaff, whose name in earlier versions of
the play was Oldcastle.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Oldcastle
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Here is a map for
Almeley,
showing how very near it is to
Whitney-on-Wye (and Rhydspence) - !
(Whitney is to the south-west)
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=almeley&ie=UTF8
&om=1&ll=52.164219,-2.976007&spn
=0.192904,0.466919&z=11
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=almeley&ie=UTF8
&om=1&ll=52.164219,-2.976007&spn
=0.192904,0.466919&z=11&iwloc=addr
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Maps of the area -
Map for
Gwernyfed, Powys
UK
The map shows Hay-on-Wye,
Whitney-on-Wye, and Rhydspence,
Glasbury,
and Bredwardine.
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http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode
=&q=gwernyfed&sll=51.805218,-4.367065&sspn
=0.194457,0.466919&ie=UTF8&ll=52.043622,
-3.177795&spn=0.193427,0.466919&z=11
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Map for Tretower Court and Castle
The map shows Abergavenny
and Clydach.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode
=&q=Tretower&sll=51.927754,-3.177795&sspn
=0.193928,0.466919&ie=UTF8&ll=51.886213,
-3.176122&spn=0.194107,0.466919&z=11
```````````````````
Or visit http://maps.google.com
and search from there.
```````````````````
Two new maps -
Map including both
Gwernyfed
and Tretower Court and Castle
(Gwernyfed is where the green arrow is - near Velindre)
(Tretower Court and Castle is to the south)
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode
=&q=gwernyfed&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn
=31.922255,59.765625&ie=UTF8&ll=51.975999,
-3.177795&spn=0.193719,0.466919&z=11
`````````
Map including the same area, also including Cirencester, Chepstow, and Tewkesbury.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode
=&q=gwernyfed&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn
=31.922255,59.765625&ie=UTF8&ll=51.828988,
-2.617493&spn=0.777421,1.867676&z=9
&iwloc=addr
`````````
A third new map.
Map showing same area, with
Stratford-on-Avon.
(down, from the north-east corner of the map)
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode
=&q=gwernyfed&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn
=31.922255,59.765625&ie=UTF8&ll=52.005174,
-2.617493&spn=0.774376,1.867676&z=9
```````````````````
This shows that Stratford-on-Avon, and Tewkesbury, etc.,
are not all that far from the area in Wales
where the stories originated from.
i.e, either William Shakespeare of Stratford, or Francis Bacon,
may, in only a little time, visit the area.
```````````````````
My own view is that Christopher Marlowe is the author
of Shakespeare -
this blog is not about the question of authorship,
however.
It is intended to give the stories of "Shakespeare's visit to Wales",
whoever Shakespeare may be.
(Kit Marlowe, who maybe did not die in 1593 at Deptford,
may have visited Wales, of course, at any time after this.)
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8.
(quote, excerpts)
The first of them recorded at Bredwardine is Watkin Vaughan,
who wrote a letter to
lord Burghley
from there, 17 Dec. 1584.
His wife was Joan, daughter of Miles ap Harry of Newcourt, in the Golden Valley,
and niece to
Blanch Parry (q.v.), queen Elizabeth's maid of honour.
They had two sons, Harry, heir to Moccas and Bredwardine, and Rowland, heir of Newcourt.
This Rowland was the author of the remarkable book entitled
Most approved and long experienced waterworkes, 1610,
which contains a long epistle to
William Herbert, earl of Pembroke.
His wife was Elizabeth, daughter of Rowland Vaughan of Porthaml. HARRY VAUGHAN'S wife was a grand-daughter of Hugh Lewis of Harpton. Their heir was ROGER VAUGHAN (matriculated at Oxford, 11 May 1604, aged 15), who rebuilt Bredwardine castle, 1639-40.
His son, HARRY VAUGHAN, m. Frances, daughter of Walter Pye, in 1635. After his death, she m. Edward Cornewall, of the Stapleton family, and it was his son who succeeded to Moccas, having purchased Bredwardine for himself.
http://yba.llgc.org.uk/en/s-VAUG-BRO-1350.html
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9.
Falstaff and Sir John Oldcastle - a link to the Whitney-on-Wye area
```````````````````
On one of the maps of the area
(Gwernyfed and Tretower),
I saw the place-name
Oldcastle.
`````````
Thinking of
Sir John Oldcastle, I looked for him at Wikipedia,
and discovered this -
`````````
(quote, excerpts)
John Oldcastle
Sir John Oldcastle (d. December 14, 1417), English Lollard leader, was
son of Sir Richard Oldcastle of Almeley in northwest Herefordshire and
grandson of another Sir John Oldcastle.
He was prosecuted for heresy against the Church, and escaped from the
Tower of London, after which he allegedly plotted against his old
friend Henry V. He was captured and executed in London, after which he
became a martyr. He is presumed to be the basis of William
Shakespeare's character Falstaff, whose name in earlier versions of
the play was Oldcastle.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Oldcastle
`````````
Here is a map for
Almeley,
showing how very near it is to
Whitney-on-Wye (and Rhydspence) - !
(Whitney is to the south-west)
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=almeley&ie=UTF8
&om=1&ll=52.164219,-2.976007&spn
=0.192904,0.466919&z=11
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=almeley&ie=UTF8
&om=1&ll=52.164219,-2.976007&spn
=0.192904,0.466919&z=11&iwloc=addr
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Latest discoveries ... 2
4.
One of the links of the Vaughans and Herberts.
(quote, excerpts)
VAUGHAN family, of Hergest , Kington , Herefords.
The first of the Vaughans to reside here was THOMAS AP ROGER VAUGHAN, son of Roger Vaughan of Bredwardine, who was killed at Agincourt (see Vaughan family of Bredwardine). His mother was Gwladys, daughter of Dafydd Gam (q.v.).
He was, therefore, a full brother of Watkin Vaughan of Bredwardine, and Sir Roger Vaughan of Tretower (see Vaughan family of Tretower),
and a uterine brother of Sir William Herbert, earl of Pembroke (q.v.),
and of Sir Richard Herbert.
http://yba.llgc.org.uk/en/s-VAUG-HER-1400.html
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5. More Whitney family tree.
(quote)
Archive:Limbus Patrum Morganiae
From WRG
G. T. CLARK, Limbus patrum Morganiæ et Glamorganiæ (London: Wyman & Sons, 1886).
Index: 0 Touchet; 1 Whitney (only), Eustace, p. 248
pp. 241
"XV. Sir ROGER VAUGHAN of Parthaml in Talgarth, M.P. for Brecknockshire 1547, 1662, 54, 1558. Knighted about 1550.
Second son of Sir Roger of Tretower and Denise Vaughan.
He had a grant of Bronllys Castle.
He m. 1st Eleanor, eldest d. of Henry Somerset, Earl of Worcester, and sister of Lady Mansel;
and 2nd Jane, d. of Robert ap (son of) Sir Robert Whitney of Whitney by Constance Touchet, his second wife,
with whom Sir Roger had lands in Talgarth (this is unclear - did Robert ap Sir Robert m. 2nd Constance Touchet and hold lands or was it actually (as stated) Sir Roger?).
They had: 1. Watkin. 2. Thomas of Tregunter, m. Elizabeth, d. of Harry Miles of Poston. They had William Vaughan father of (a) William
(b) Sybil, m. William ap Harry (from Vaughan of Porthaml) of Trebarried;
William was father Hugh Vaughan of Trebarried, living 1623.
3. Henry Vaughan of Bronllys.
4. Elizabeth, m. Thomas Morgan of Machen.
5. a dau., m. Jenkin ap Tomas Prosser of Aberllyfni.
6. Eleanor, m. 1st Howel of Argoed, called also Howel ap Gwilim Powel of Brecon. His first wife was Margaret d. of William ap John Havard, by whom he had Thomas Powel,
who m. Sybil, d. of Sir William Vaughan, Kt.
Eleanor m. 2nd Thomas ap Rytherch of Lliwell.
7. Joan, m. William Morgan of the Friars, Newport.
He (Sir Roger Vaughan) had also of base children: 8. Robert Vaughan of Bronllys. 9. Robert Vaughan of Tregunter. 10. Thomas Vaughan of Trepicca. 11. a dau., m. Thomas ap Robert of Maesglas."
pp. 248.
sub VAUGHAN - unplaced entries.
"Eustace Whitney of Whitney m. Margaret, d. and co-h. of William Vaughan of Glasbury, and had SIR ROBERT WHITNEY of Whitney, and others."
http://wiki.whitneygen.org/wrg/index.php/Archive:Limbus_Patrum_Morganiae
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6. Whitney (and Vaughan) family tree, royal ancestry.
Thomas VAUGHN
Born: Abt. 1467
married
Joan (Jean) WHITNEY
Born: Abt 1469 Place: Of Whitney, Herfordshire, England
Father: Robert WHITNEY
Mother: Constance TOUCHET
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Constance TOUCHET
Birth: Abt 1443
Of Heleigh, Staffordshire, England
Father: James TOUCHET
Mother: Eleanor De HOLAND
m. Robert WHITNEY
Marriage: Abt 1464
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Eleanor De HOLAND
Birth: Abt 1405
Kenilworth, Warwickshire, England
Father: Edmund De HOLAND
Mother: Constance Princess Of ENGLAND
m. James TOUCHET
Marriage: 14 Feb 1429
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Constance Princess Of ENGLAND
Birth: Abt 1374
Of Castle, Conisbrough, Yorkshire, England
Christening:
Of Kings Langley, Hertfordshire, England
Death: 28 Nov 1416
Reading, Berkshire, England
Burial:
Abbey, Reading, Berkshire, England
Father: Edmund "of Langley" Prince Of ENGLAND
Mother: Isabel Princess Of CASTILE AND LEON
m. Edmund De HOLAND
m. Thomas Le DESPENCER
Marriage: Aft 16 1378 Apr
Of Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
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Edmund "of Langley" Prince Of ENGLAND
Birth: 5 Jun 1341
King's Langley, Hertfordshire, England
Christening:
King's Langley, Hertfordshire, England
Death: 1 Aug 1402
Langley, Hertfordshire, England
Burial:
Church Of The Dominicans, Langley, Hertfordshire, England
Father: Edward III King Of ENGLAND
Mother: Philippa Queen Of ENGLAND
m. Isabel Princess Of CASTILE AND LEON
Marriage: Aft 1 1371/1372 Jan
Of Hertford Castle, Hertford, Hertfordshire, England
m. Joan De HOLAND
Marriage: Bef 4 1393 Nov
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Edward III King Of ENGLAND
Birth: 13 Nov 1312
Windsor Castle, Windsor, Berkshire, England
Christening: 20 Nov 1312
Death: 21 Jun 1377
Shene Palace, Surrey, England
Burial:
Westminster Abbey, Westminster, Middlesex, England
Father: Edward II King Of ENGLAND
Mother: Isabelle Princess Of FRANCE
m. Philippa Queen Of ENGLAND
Marriage: 24 Jan 1327/1328
York Minster, York, Yorkshire, England
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Isabelle Princess Of FRANCE
Birth: 1292
Of Paris, France
Death: 21 Nov 1358
Hertford Castle, Hertfordshire, England
Burial: 27 Nov 1358
Grey Friars, London, Middlesex, England
Father: Philippe IV King Of FRANCE
Mother: Jeanne Princess Of NAVARRE
m. Edward II King Of ENGLAND
Marriage: 22 Jan 1307/1308
Boulogne, Pas-De-Calais, France
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Philippa Queen Of ENGLAND
Birth: Abt 1314
Of Le Quesnoy, Nord, France
Death: 15 Aug 1369
Windsor Castle, Windsor, Berkshire, England
Burial:
Westminster Abbey, Westminster, Middlesex, England
Father: Willem III De AVESNES
Mother: Jeanne De VALOIS
m. Edward III King Of ENGLAND
Marriage: 24 Jan 1327/1328
York Minster, York, Yorkshire, England
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One of the links of the Vaughans and Herberts.
(quote, excerpts)
VAUGHAN family, of Hergest , Kington , Herefords.
The first of the Vaughans to reside here was THOMAS AP ROGER VAUGHAN, son of Roger Vaughan of Bredwardine, who was killed at Agincourt (see Vaughan family of Bredwardine). His mother was Gwladys, daughter of Dafydd Gam (q.v.).
He was, therefore, a full brother of Watkin Vaughan of Bredwardine, and Sir Roger Vaughan of Tretower (see Vaughan family of Tretower),
and a uterine brother of Sir William Herbert, earl of Pembroke (q.v.),
and of Sir Richard Herbert.
http://yba.llgc.org.uk/en/s-VAUG-HER-1400.html
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5. More Whitney family tree.
(quote)
Archive:Limbus Patrum Morganiae
From WRG
G. T. CLARK, Limbus patrum Morganiæ et Glamorganiæ (London: Wyman & Sons, 1886).
Index: 0 Touchet; 1 Whitney (only), Eustace, p. 248
pp. 241
"XV. Sir ROGER VAUGHAN of Parthaml in Talgarth, M.P. for Brecknockshire 1547, 1662, 54, 1558. Knighted about 1550.
Second son of Sir Roger of Tretower and Denise Vaughan.
He had a grant of Bronllys Castle.
He m. 1st Eleanor, eldest d. of Henry Somerset, Earl of Worcester, and sister of Lady Mansel;
and 2nd Jane, d. of Robert ap (son of) Sir Robert Whitney of Whitney by Constance Touchet, his second wife,
with whom Sir Roger had lands in Talgarth (this is unclear - did Robert ap Sir Robert m. 2nd Constance Touchet and hold lands or was it actually (as stated) Sir Roger?).
They had: 1. Watkin. 2. Thomas of Tregunter, m. Elizabeth, d. of Harry Miles of Poston. They had William Vaughan father of (a) William
(b) Sybil, m. William ap Harry (from Vaughan of Porthaml) of Trebarried;
William was father Hugh Vaughan of Trebarried, living 1623.
3. Henry Vaughan of Bronllys.
4. Elizabeth, m. Thomas Morgan of Machen.
5. a dau., m. Jenkin ap Tomas Prosser of Aberllyfni.
6. Eleanor, m. 1st Howel of Argoed, called also Howel ap Gwilim Powel of Brecon. His first wife was Margaret d. of William ap John Havard, by whom he had Thomas Powel,
who m. Sybil, d. of Sir William Vaughan, Kt.
Eleanor m. 2nd Thomas ap Rytherch of Lliwell.
7. Joan, m. William Morgan of the Friars, Newport.
He (Sir Roger Vaughan) had also of base children: 8. Robert Vaughan of Bronllys. 9. Robert Vaughan of Tregunter. 10. Thomas Vaughan of Trepicca. 11. a dau., m. Thomas ap Robert of Maesglas."
pp. 248.
sub VAUGHAN - unplaced entries.
"Eustace Whitney of Whitney m. Margaret, d. and co-h. of William Vaughan of Glasbury, and had SIR ROBERT WHITNEY of Whitney, and others."
http://wiki.whitneygen.org/wrg/index.php/Archive:Limbus_Patrum_Morganiae
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6. Whitney (and Vaughan) family tree, royal ancestry.
Thomas VAUGHN
Born: Abt. 1467
married
Joan (Jean) WHITNEY
Born: Abt 1469 Place: Of Whitney, Herfordshire, England
Father: Robert WHITNEY
Mother: Constance TOUCHET
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Constance TOUCHET
Birth: Abt 1443
Of Heleigh, Staffordshire, England
Father: James TOUCHET
Mother: Eleanor De HOLAND
m. Robert WHITNEY
Marriage: Abt 1464
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Eleanor De HOLAND
Birth: Abt 1405
Kenilworth, Warwickshire, England
Father: Edmund De HOLAND
Mother: Constance Princess Of ENGLAND
m. James TOUCHET
Marriage: 14 Feb 1429
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Constance Princess Of ENGLAND
Birth: Abt 1374
Of Castle, Conisbrough, Yorkshire, England
Christening:
Of Kings Langley, Hertfordshire, England
Death: 28 Nov 1416
Reading, Berkshire, England
Burial:
Abbey, Reading, Berkshire, England
Father: Edmund "of Langley" Prince Of ENGLAND
Mother: Isabel Princess Of CASTILE AND LEON
m. Edmund De HOLAND
m. Thomas Le DESPENCER
Marriage: Aft 16 1378 Apr
Of Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
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Edmund "of Langley" Prince Of ENGLAND
Birth: 5 Jun 1341
King's Langley, Hertfordshire, England
Christening:
King's Langley, Hertfordshire, England
Death: 1 Aug 1402
Langley, Hertfordshire, England
Burial:
Church Of The Dominicans, Langley, Hertfordshire, England
Father: Edward III King Of ENGLAND
Mother: Philippa Queen Of ENGLAND
m. Isabel Princess Of CASTILE AND LEON
Marriage: Aft 1 1371/1372 Jan
Of Hertford Castle, Hertford, Hertfordshire, England
m. Joan De HOLAND
Marriage: Bef 4 1393 Nov
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Edward III King Of ENGLAND
Birth: 13 Nov 1312
Windsor Castle, Windsor, Berkshire, England
Christening: 20 Nov 1312
Death: 21 Jun 1377
Shene Palace, Surrey, England
Burial:
Westminster Abbey, Westminster, Middlesex, England
Father: Edward II King Of ENGLAND
Mother: Isabelle Princess Of FRANCE
m. Philippa Queen Of ENGLAND
Marriage: 24 Jan 1327/1328
York Minster, York, Yorkshire, England
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Isabelle Princess Of FRANCE
Birth: 1292
Of Paris, France
Death: 21 Nov 1358
Hertford Castle, Hertfordshire, England
Burial: 27 Nov 1358
Grey Friars, London, Middlesex, England
Father: Philippe IV King Of FRANCE
Mother: Jeanne Princess Of NAVARRE
m. Edward II King Of ENGLAND
Marriage: 22 Jan 1307/1308
Boulogne, Pas-De-Calais, France
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Philippa Queen Of ENGLAND
Birth: Abt 1314
Of Le Quesnoy, Nord, France
Death: 15 Aug 1369
Windsor Castle, Windsor, Berkshire, England
Burial:
Westminster Abbey, Westminster, Middlesex, England
Father: Willem III De AVESNES
Mother: Jeanne De VALOIS
m. Edward III King Of ENGLAND
Marriage: 24 Jan 1327/1328
York Minster, York, Yorkshire, England
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