Thursday 27 March 2008

The Whitneys of Whitney - 3

3.

Turstin, or Thurstan, the Fleming

Also known as Turstin de Wigmore, maybe also as Turstin, son of Rolf, and Turstin "the White".
A follower of William the Conqueror. In the Domesday book, an extensive land-holder in Herefordshire and the Marches of Wales.
Married Agnes, daughter of Alured de Merleberge (Alfred of Marlborough), a Norman baron of Ewias/Ewyas Castle, in the Marches of Wales.

Children:

Eustace, son of Turstin

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Whitneys of Whitney

Origin

The Whitney family originated with a man named Turstin who came to England with William the Conqueror in 1066 and who probably fought in the Battle of Hastings. He was called 'Turstin Flandrensis' (Turstin of Flanders, Turstin the Fleming) probably because he came from the area known as Flanders.

At some point he was given land near Wigmore Castle and was thereafter known as 'Turstin de Wigemore'. Turstin and his wife Agnes had a son Eustace, and Eustace inherited the manor of Pencombe from his mother. Note that the nearby region called Whitney was still at this time ungranted wild land.

Sometime in the several unknown generations between Eustace of Pencombe and his descendant Robert de Whitney, probably about 1190, a man was granted the region called Whitney and a castle was built. The family then became known as 'de Whitney' (of Whitney), and the Whitney surname was born.[1]




* Turstin (s1045-a1086) "the Fleming", "de Wigemore", of Wigmore and Pencombe, m. Agnes, daughter of Alfred of Marlborough (s1020-?)

* Eustace (s1075-a1100) of Pencombe

* four to six generations, names have not survived.[2] Due to the fact that later Whitney coats of arms contain a cross, it is thought probable that members in these generations may have participated in the 1st Crusade (1095-99), the 2nd Crusade (1145-48), or the 3rd Crusade (1189-1192).


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"There is a pedigree of the early Lords of Whitney, tracing their descent for five or six generations through a line of Welshmen with unpronounceable names, one of whom, Sir Piedge Exrog, was a 'Knight of ye Round Table.

To King Arthyrs time he lived att his Castle at Coedmore in Cardiganshire.'

This is to be found in a manuscript book of pedigrees called

The Golden Grove,


belonging to the Earl of Cawdor and now (1875) in the custody of the Public Record office, Chancery Lane. It was compiled, about 1703, by Owen Thomas, Deputy Assistant to Garter King-at-Arms, from papers and correspondence furnished by living representatives. This pedigree is obviously mythical for many generations." Henry Austin Whitney

http://wiki.whitneygen.org/wrg/index.php/
Whitneys_of_Whitney

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